Esteban Toledo
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ATTN: MP5RAYCER - off topic
I enjoyed your pics. What kind of headlight bulbs do you have?
I enjoyed your pics. What kind of headlight bulbs do you have?
18's on a P5...
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PR_5_PRYNCE
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MP5Raycer said:
FULL OF s*** ... you wouldnt know unless you dropped your car .. but as i see there your not dropped ... so thats why you wont rub... and if you wanna try and tuck the rear lip. to bad buddy theres not much lip there to tuck ... so dont ignore my statement. ive been through s*** with my car probably more than you have with 18s. i had 45 offset sorri had to return them b/c i rubbed so i had to get camber bolts and a 48 offset and my car was dropped...and even if you did drop your car and you have the 45 offset and you tried the tuck that narrow lip... still wouldnt work..
so dont say thats full of s***.
Hey Prynce
I mean "Junior" do your self a favor ... load your Brain before you shoot your mouth off because if you had'nt taken the shot buss to school you retard you would have noticed what I said ealier and would not be running your s*** flapper to me ... so before you scroll back up to re-read what i typed here let me be of some more assistance
"also if you are going to lower your car with these 18s .. yes then at that point you may incurr rubbing time to time but that can easily be avoided in the rear any way if the inner lip of the fender is CAREFULLY tucked in ... but to answer your question not at this time I do not have my car lowered and it looks a little odd but in the next month or so i will lower it "
that also does not mean i have never lowered a car before also further more I know personally a kid that rolls with nopi each year and this year he had his P5 in it with 19's!!! dropped and they didnt rub and he didnt even put any camber kits in ... further more .. he did not say anything abotu dropping it he just simply asked if 18s would rub and did they fit well .. then later on he asked me if I dropped it .... and even more to back me up since you're the P5 expert here .. even Waat Da Hell (memeber on this post incase you didnt know or read it ) even he stated with the tires I have and the size I have they willnot rub .. oh and wait again let me show you what he said incase you want to scroll up some more ...
here is a qoute from WaatDaHell
"If you buy the right wheels they will not rub. The recommended tire size for 18" wheels that "do" fit on the P5 is 215/35/18. If they rub, you have wheels that are either too wide or have the wrong offset. If the wheels are correct, that tire size is perfect."
So I truley feel reading this will be a much needed learning expiriance for you and in the future may not run your mouth like you did .. to members that have been here three times the time you have been .
also hey Esteban Toledo... thanks for the props on the picts and the bulbs are the APC Super White 9005 series bulbsthey are the 130 watt and if you need it the part # is 9005 or HB-3 and this package shows it to be the "simulated HID's" I am not sure if they all say that or if it is the kind I bought
I mean "Junior" do your self a favor ... load your Brain before you shoot your mouth off because if you had'nt taken the shot buss to school you retard you would have noticed what I said ealier and would not be running your s*** flapper to me ... so before you scroll back up to re-read what i typed here let me be of some more assistance
"also if you are going to lower your car with these 18s .. yes then at that point you may incurr rubbing time to time but that can easily be avoided in the rear any way if the inner lip of the fender is CAREFULLY tucked in ... but to answer your question not at this time I do not have my car lowered and it looks a little odd but in the next month or so i will lower it "
that also does not mean i have never lowered a car before also further more I know personally a kid that rolls with nopi each year and this year he had his P5 in it with 19's!!! dropped and they didnt rub and he didnt even put any camber kits in ... further more .. he did not say anything abotu dropping it he just simply asked if 18s would rub and did they fit well .. then later on he asked me if I dropped it .... and even more to back me up since you're the P5 expert here .. even Waat Da Hell (memeber on this post incase you didnt know or read it ) even he stated with the tires I have and the size I have they willnot rub .. oh and wait again let me show you what he said incase you want to scroll up some more ...
here is a qoute from WaatDaHell
"If you buy the right wheels they will not rub. The recommended tire size for 18" wheels that "do" fit on the P5 is 215/35/18. If they rub, you have wheels that are either too wide or have the wrong offset. If the wheels are correct, that tire size is perfect."
So I truley feel reading this will be a much needed learning expiriance for you and in the future may not run your mouth like you did .. to members that have been here three times the time you have been .
also hey Esteban Toledo... thanks for the props on the picts and the bulbs are the APC Super White 9005 series bulbsthey are the 130 watt and if you need it the part # is 9005 or HB-3 and this package shows it to be the "simulated HID's" I am not sure if they all say that or if it is the kind I bought
JrTekSilverP5
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hey PRYNCE... My car is dropped on eibach prokits and I PUT 19's on my car and drop around WITH PEOPLE in my car and DIDNT RUB ONCE!!!! sorry but ur wrong
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From my experience with lowering cars, fixing the camber can increase your chance of tire-rubbage! I don't know what the maximum width is for the P5 is yet but I know on 7thgen civics 205 was the widest you could go if you fix your rear camber. I had 215/40/R17s on my and civic and it was lowered with H&R springs. I didn't have any rubbing but I did have a bad negative(less than -2 degrees) camber on the rear tires. Fixing the camber would have caused rubbing and it required the inside fenders to be rolled!
I don't know why I'm bothering, but let me just say that PR_5_PRYNCE was at least trying to help the original poster of this thread. MP5Raycer, you've been depositing as much trash as know-how here. I don't know the history of PR_5_PRYNCE and his previous posts, but you, not he, are the one shooting his mouth off here. Please practice a little civility. None of us lives in a vacuum.
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p.s. I won't be monitoring this thread, so flame away...
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p.s. I won't be monitoring this thread, so flame away...
yeah I dont know why you are bothering either ... so here's and Idea .. DONT ... Lazer blue asked a question and it was already answered .. and then out of no where little prynce's dumb ass comes in here basically telling us whats what! In turn taking everything I had said and basically totaly disregarding it and continued to give false infor then tried to defend it .. so I inturn again defended what I KNOW IS TRUE .. so blow me if you don't like it. what is with all the newbies latley
WaatDaHell
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Wow. I didn't know so much drama can result from such a simple question. Like I said, there is a recommended size. It's not a "you must" size. If you follow that size, you "most likely" will not have trouble. It is also recommended in your manual not to change wheel sizes or even lower your car. (If you do read carefully, you'll see.) That doesn't necessarily mean that you "can't." If you use plus sizing like you're supposed to anyway, recommended or not, you should be at 215/35/18. If this still isn't clear, do as you please. Ignore the recommendations. If you do want to know the recommended tire size, try tires.com or tiresdirect.com. Not only do they give you the recommended tire size, they also give you the recommended wheels. Wheel sizes, widths, offsets, etc. are just as important decisions as tire sizes. All in all, you just have to use your own judgement.
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I've got 18"s with 225/35/18 Nitto 555s and I don't rub because this is what I did:
1] carefully rolled the rear fenders flat(all the way) and then applied clearcoat (clear nail polish also works) to the areas where the paint had chipped on the inside
2] took my racing hart c5s to a machine shop and had them shave off 4mms off of the rear hub of the wheels (after doing some measuring first of course)
3] trimmed the inner wheelwell section of the rear bumper with a dremel to prevent the tires from snagging the rear bumper during vertical travel of the rear wheels
Now they tuck in without rubbing whenever you hit a bump or pack it full of people. I also lowered the vehicle with H&R springs and got the alignment done(must do). Contrary to some folks, you do not need camber adjustments with h&rs and 18"s. You'll definitely maximize treadlife with an alignment. Don't listen to some so-called experts about this and that cause if there's a will there's a way. All wheels are not made equally so I don't know how someone can come up with a recipe unless they have tried every single frickin wheel available under the sun. You just have to be crafty if you really want to make something work. Good luck!
Oh yah, one more thing. Nitto 450s aren't as sticky as other brands but the 555's are truly one of the best tires out there. You get what you pay for.
1] carefully rolled the rear fenders flat(all the way) and then applied clearcoat (clear nail polish also works) to the areas where the paint had chipped on the inside
2] took my racing hart c5s to a machine shop and had them shave off 4mms off of the rear hub of the wheels (after doing some measuring first of course)
3] trimmed the inner wheelwell section of the rear bumper with a dremel to prevent the tires from snagging the rear bumper during vertical travel of the rear wheels
Now they tuck in without rubbing whenever you hit a bump or pack it full of people. I also lowered the vehicle with H&R springs and got the alignment done(must do). Contrary to some folks, you do not need camber adjustments with h&rs and 18"s. You'll definitely maximize treadlife with an alignment. Don't listen to some so-called experts about this and that cause if there's a will there's a way. All wheels are not made equally so I don't know how someone can come up with a recipe unless they have tried every single frickin wheel available under the sun. You just have to be crafty if you really want to make something work. Good luck!
Oh yah, one more thing. Nitto 450s aren't as sticky as other brands but the 555's are truly one of the best tires out there. You get what you pay for.
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LazerBlueP5
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Damn, nice car Sav. Makes me really appreciate the RED. 
Racing Hart wheels are so sweet I want to go with the C6's (I think thats what they are) very basic 5 star design. I'd love to go 18" but I dunno about the whole rolling the fender bit. Though if I go with 18's I'll HAVE to lower it and I have 37tons of audio in the trunk so it'll really be low in the rear- more than likely I'll have problems. UGH! Just can't win. No way to have looks AND funtionality!
Racing Hart wheels are so sweet I want to go with the C6's (I think thats what they are) very basic 5 star design. I'd love to go 18" but I dunno about the whole rolling the fender bit. Though if I go with 18's I'll HAVE to lower it and I have 37tons of audio in the trunk so it'll really be low in the rear- more than likely I'll have problems. UGH! Just can't win. No way to have looks AND funtionality!
Going 18s and still being functional is possible but there's a lot of work involved. If you were worried about the rear end sagging from all the weight of your system, I would go with 18s and H&R sport springs. The springs would give you a perfect drop of 1.3" fore & aft and are guaranteed for life to never sag. To prevent the rear from sagging under load and looking like a tired toyota 4runner, you could install 1" spring spacers that are installed in between the coils which would prevent the springs from compressing all the way. Staying with 215/35/18 tires might get you by without having to have your wheels shaved. Fender rolling takes practice and isn't as hard as it may seem. I learned how to roll my first fender lip by running a 1" aluminum pipe between the tire and the fenders while someone drove the car slowly forward and back until the tires cleared the fender. (holding the pipe at an angle of course ie. / )There were times when we would pile the trunk full of people just to roll the fenders. I know it sounds ghetto but it works great. Not once have I ever damaged the exterior of a rear fender and I've done countless cars. After a while you get quite good at rolling fenders. I learned this trick from a guy who worked with lowering hot rods. Keep in mind though that not all 18"s will work so you'd better ask around. Someone just might be able to save you time & money from their trial & error.
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