Does anyone know if the turbo kits from places like turbospecialties or raceinspired actually fit? Most importantly do the manifolds fit. I am a tig welder and would have no problem building a turbo manifold just looking to save time and the hassle if I can buy one. If I could buy just a manifold or build one myself I could probably peice together the rest of the contents of those cheap kits for under a grand using a small turbo, ebay piping and intercooler and a rising rate fpr.
1.6 turbo "kits"
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AzteCypher
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I don't think many, if any, people have tried those kits. If you're a welder by trade it would probably be cheaper for you to make your own manifold. One thing that concerns me about those kits is that they don't have much in terms of fuel management. Sure they have a RRFPR but that will only take you so far. Plus they don't include an intercooler. This tells me that you probably can't boost much more beyond 4-5 PSI. You're money would probably be better invested if you piece the kit together yourself. Just my opinion.
Thanks for the input. The only problem I have with running an fuel mangement system on this car is the ability to stay obd2 legal. I want to keep it modest around 6psi and I know the zm can handle a lot more but then I've gotta go with a 1000 dollar ems and try to pass emissions tests still...
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You would probably be able to make more gains, simpler by putting in an MSP Swap.
2.0L MSP engine complete...
Probably not what you wanted to hear, but that is the easy and reliable way to do it..
2.0L MSP engine complete...
Probably not what you wanted to hear, but that is the easy and reliable way to do it..
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How will a standalone throw a check code. It replaces the ECU.
Also, I would say that 1.6L at 15 PSI will still make less than 2.0l at 9 PSI.
Also, I would say that 1.6L at 15 PSI will still make less than 2.0l at 9 PSI.
AzteCypher
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I think I'd have to agree with Brian here. Though the 1.6L can probably take more power it won't make as much as the 2.0L would at the same PSI. That's one of the reasons why I decided not to boost my 1.6L after all. I think it would be really cool to boost a 1.6L just to see what you could do with it but it would be more of an engineering exercise or a labor of love. Both of which are perfectly good reasons.
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^^ Win! (But also a bit expensive)
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2.0l always wins!!!! 
I AM GOING TO BOOST THE 1.6... no engine swap here sorry guys. Ill be one of few who have done it but it will happen. I've decided to use an aem f/ic, aem wideband sensor, garrett t25 turbo internally gated at 8psi,sti 440cc injectors, hks type h bov. There's a local shop who told me they could tune it for 6600 no matter how muxh they have to screw with it lol. Ill custom build the manifold. I made on for a buddies d16 and its been daily driven for 3 years since. All in all about 2500 dollars. Btw I already got the injectors free!
AzteCypher
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Make sure you write up a Build page. I'm very interested in seeing what the 1.6 can do. What are you doing for fuel management?
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Will the MSP Kit fit on the 1.6?
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Weak... The 1.8 will fit...
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yup but he doesnt have a 1.8 now does he lol...
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123803877-WTB-1.6-ZM-Turbo-Exhaust-header
Check out this thread it has a link where you can buy just the turbo specialties header and then you could piece together the kit from there. Running the turbo you mentioned a rising rate FPR will do the trick, especially if you dropping in new injectors. I don't think you will really need to upgrade the fuel pump for 6psi, but if you turn it up anymore you might want to upgrade your fuel pump. It is a crude way to run a turbo, but with a wideband and a shop to tune it you should be ok. It will take a lot of fabrication, and for this reason i would somewhat agree that the 2.0 is easier because of the aftermarket options available. Also stock mazdaspeed parts like the MSP oil pan/ecu/maniflod... But i also agree that the 1.6 has a lot of potential, as juan from Hi-Boost proved some years back. If only Hi-boost still made kits for the 1.6...
Check out this thread it has a link where you can buy just the turbo specialties header and then you could piece together the kit from there. Running the turbo you mentioned a rising rate FPR will do the trick, especially if you dropping in new injectors. I don't think you will really need to upgrade the fuel pump for 6psi, but if you turn it up anymore you might want to upgrade your fuel pump. It is a crude way to run a turbo, but with a wideband and a shop to tune it you should be ok. It will take a lot of fabrication, and for this reason i would somewhat agree that the 2.0 is easier because of the aftermarket options available. Also stock mazdaspeed parts like the MSP oil pan/ecu/maniflod... But i also agree that the 1.6 has a lot of potential, as juan from Hi-Boost proved some years back. If only Hi-boost still made kits for the 1.6...
I meant tune it for 600 not 6600. Fuel management will be through the AEM fuel/ignition controller. Its fully customizable to work with any obd2 vehicle and has an internal map sensor to advance or retard timing based on boost pressure. The wideband o2 sensor hooks up to it as well to control the 440cc injectors. The high impedance wrx injectors are basocally plug in as well as the wrx walbro fuel pump.I think if tuned correctly on a dyno at 8psi with 2.5" exhaust I should make 180whp. We will see its mostly for fun and ill make the best write up I can and take lots of pictures.
And thankyou for that link but ill be building my own stainless manifold. I tig weld stainless for a living and have all the tools available to make pretty much whatever I want lol. And yes...if only hiboost was still on our side...300hp 1.6 proteges would be all over! Oh btw I have a centerforce 1 (excedy stage one in disquize) clutch with 10k miles on a resurfaced flywheel. How well will it hold 170-180hp?
