1.5 ---> 1.5 Zl-ve

[Sebastian]

Hello guys, i've some questions about swapping a 1.5 ZL-VE in to my car(323BJ)
Im from holland so my car is a std 1.5 ZL i think with 88HP.

Can somebody with expierence tell me what do i have to replace en what about the wiring who controls the variabel timing?
Is the wiring already there or is it just plug and play?
Is it easy to fix the wiring?

The engines are the same except the variabel timing is different? are there not any more sensors or other stuff on these engines?

can somebody please awnser cause here in this country nobody knows s*** about tuning mazda's, and please keep the language simple cause my english isn't super good(kiss)

grtzz

 

[TreFlip999]

Hmmm....Pictures of the car?

 

[u812many73]

sounds to me like you will need the ecu that comes with that motor assuming it will plug right in. also you will need a means to wire the solenoid for the variable timing assuming it works like most variable valved engines. Unless your harness already has the wires required (like some of the older honda models).

another option may be to wire it using a window switch which can engage the variable valve function at a selected rpm. just depends upon the fuel demands of the engine.

unfortunately we dont have that motor here in the protege's so i doubt you will get too much input on the subject.

 

[kcbhiw]

The following was lifted from Edwin Man's website (Found HERE). Though, this is for owners of USDM cars swapping a 1.6L to 1.5L with S-VT, it holds a bit of useful info.

The most physically direct swap for the 1.6l ZM-DE owners is getting the 1.5l ZL-VE
engine from the Japanese market. It has the S-VT variable valve timing system.
Getting the engine physically into the car is not a problem, everything bolts up. The
problem is trying to run the engine with the S-VT. You must get the wiring harness
and ECU to get it to run. At this time, there is not really an aftermarket ECU that will
be able to control such a variable valve timing system. A Honda VTEC controller will
not work. VTEC works in a 2 or 3 stage cam profile mode, while S-VT works like
Toyota's continuously variable VVTi system. Do some research into aftermarket
controllers for Toyota's VVTi system (they are the most plentiful continously variable
valve timing engines available in the market). Anything made to control VVTi will
work with S-VT, including the Haltech E11 ECU.

 

[Lord_Zath]

an 88 hp p5? ouch. good luck w/the swap!

 

[Sebastian]

I guess about 8.5 seconds. You?

11,7

 

[Sebastian]

11,7 seconds


edit/// loll my awnser is coming in the midlle of the topic!

 

[Sebastian]

yeah 88HP is not so much(pissed)

sounds to me like you will need the ecu that comes with that motor assuming it will plug right in. also you will need a means to wire the solenoid for the variable timing assuming it works like most variable valved engines. Unless your harness already has the wires required (like some of the older honda models).

another option may be to wire it using a window switch which can engage the variable valve function at a selected rpm. just depends upon the fuel demands of the engine.

unfortunately we dont have that motor here in the protege's so i doubt you will get too much input on the subject.

i don't know how much wires the solenoid needs? (the controller to the ECU)? is it 1 wire or more?
Does anybody know somebody who has done this before, and my engine is almost the same as the 1.6 but the 1.6 has 10hp more and some torque more off course.

 

[u812many73]

i don't know how much wires the solenoid needs? (the controller to the ECU)? is it 1 wire or more?

usually there would be only two wires on the solenoid. one for ground, one from the source. the source in your case being the ecu.

my only experience with anything like this was in my old honda which i did a vtec swap, but thats a whole different story. mostly because whatever i did, had already been done 1000's of times

 

[JoshP5]

I like this thread. Makes me appreciate my 130hp.

 

[Sebastian]

indeed, the market in honda's is here much better, tuning mazda's os here almost unknown.

and there isnt so much information on the internet about 1.5 to 1.5-VE, no pictures and stuff like that.

a picture of the wiring orso would be very nice, does someone hae a clear picture of that?

thanks!

 

[Sebastian]

I like this thread. Makes me appreciate my 130hp.

hahah(bang)

how much is your 0-60 MPH (or 0-100KMH) time?

 

[JoshP5]

I guess about 8.5 seconds. You?

 

[JoshP5]

11,7 seconds


edit/// loll my awnser is coming in the midlle of the topic!

This thread is like a Tarantino film.

11.7? You have my sympathies. (group)

 

[Sebastian]

yeah and because of that i want a little bit faster, i can put a turbo on it but nobody knows anything about a turbo on a mazda here, thats ******.

 

[Sebastian]

soo, i've asked to a guy who imports enginges and stuuf like that what a ZL-VE is gonna cost me. inc ECU.

does anyone know a turbo kit whick is going to fit this block, ss autochrome or xs-power? and can only find kits for honda(scratch)

grtz

 

[P-Funk!]

It will be expensive either way - but i have to believe a custom turbo kit will yield more hp/euro!

'Dag! Soesterberg FTW!

 

[Sebastian]

its very hard to get the right parts here hea!

so i thought if there is an turbo kit on the market which is affortable!, but i cant find much for mazda

 

[Salmon_Rob]

you might be better off doing a swap from a 323f sportive 2.0? i believe its called. same engine and ecu as us. thats a 50 hp boost right there. probably your most cost effective and reliable answer.

 

[niky]

+1 on the turbo or 2... but if you can get the ZL-VE for not very much, it's a legitimate option.

BTW... 0-60 and 0-100 are not equal. Add about 0.5 to 8.5 for 0-100 (additional 4 km/h takes about that much.)