Disable daytime running lights? 2022 CX-5
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N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T ... 2024 MX-5 RF GT
I found it easier to follow this version. I also shared it with my dealership who didn't know about it.
7eregrine
The man, the myth, the legend
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- Land of Cleve
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- 2016.5 CX5
We were just talking about this on Reddit. I am kind of an expert on where this has been and where it's going in the US. Because when I bought my 16 I thought it had that tech. Couldn't wait to try it.
Didn't have it?!?! Saw that exact video you shared... did you notice how old that is? 8...years...
That's when I found out it's not available in the USA. That was 2016. Audi got this approved in Europe in 2012! We are still waiting.
Yes, it was FINALLY approved by the USA in February of this year. There still is not a single car in the USA with this feature "officially" enabled as the NHTSA is STILL dicking around with final approval.
Most car companies decided that they were NOT going to make USA-ONLY headlights so MANY cars in the US today have the same lights they have in Europe with that feature disabled. The thinking is when it is finally officially approved they can release a software update and turn it on. Great, right? Yea...still waiting. Some car companies like Volvo and BMW can be...I don't want to call it hacked...
...there are ways to enable it on their cars. Haven't heard of a way to do it on Mazda yet.Doing my Volvo after my warranty ends.
Good article if you're interested in more info:
NHTSA roadblocking headlight technology that could save lives
Difficulties in certification and testing is leaving safer, smarter lights on the shelf
www.newsweek.com
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- Plano, Texas, USA
There’s no way the current US LED headlights with AFS can be converted into the ALH by a simple software upgrade. The headlights have an array of LEDs tuning on or off accordingly. The single LED headlight we have simply won’t work!I love my country but hot damn do we know how to over complicate things....
Yeah how long had we been settled on the sealed beam headlights? How long had we been settled for ugly 3-dots on headlight lens just for headlight alignment? Now the ALH has been around for more than 10 years, and we finally will get it thanks to Toyota and Audi who keep fighting against those government officials and congressmen.
7eregrine
The man, the myth, the legend
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- Land of Cleve
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- 2016.5 CX5
Yea they can, Yrwei. I'm not guessing. And I am not specifically talking about Mazda here. Of course yours and mine cannot do this.
I know for a fact BMW, Audi and Volvo all use the EXACT SAME HEADLIGHTS in Europe as they do here in all their cars. (I'm sure MB does too, but not positive). BMW's are pretty famous for the amount of things you can do to them with software.
My headlights in my Volvo have indivudal little LED's in the housing that do not act independently. If I connect some software to the car and flip the LED HEADLIGHT setting to ROW from USA, it does exactly what the European ones do. (ROW = REST OF WORLD).
Some car companies, like Mazda, have different headlights on the lower trims versus the uppers. And I do not know if they are the same ones they use in Japan, that also does uses these more advanced headlights. Toyota I'm sure does too on the higher trims.
For MANY brands, they are the same.
I know for a fact BMW, Audi and Volvo all use the EXACT SAME HEADLIGHTS in Europe as they do here in all their cars. (I'm sure MB does too, but not positive). BMW's are pretty famous for the amount of things you can do to them with software.
My headlights in my Volvo have indivudal little LED's in the housing that do not act independently. If I connect some software to the car and flip the LED HEADLIGHT setting to ROW from USA, it does exactly what the European ones do. (ROW = REST OF WORLD).
Some car companies, like Mazda, have different headlights on the lower trims versus the uppers. And I do not know if they are the same ones they use in Japan, that also does uses these more advanced headlights. Toyota I'm sure does too on the higher trims.
For MANY brands, they are the same.
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- CX5 GT
The 2022 CX5 also seem to have multiple led diodes in the lens but they all lit together.
Same with the lane tracing, the camera is the same its just not enabled by the softwate
and we get the sucky lane assist.
this is the Euro model lights. At least outside they are the same. No difference.
Same with the lane tracing, the camera is the same its just not enabled by the softwate
and we get the sucky lane assist.
this is the Euro model lights. At least outside they are the same. No difference.
7eregrine
The man, the myth, the legend
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- Land of Cleve
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- 2016.5 CX5
I would assume the newest higher trim Mazdas use the Japanese adaptive lights in the US. Surely hoping for that final approval, like Toyota, so they can offer to program your car (for $200) to enable this once it's finally approved.
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- CX5 GT
I dont have my hopes but may be thats why the 2022- headlights are near 2000$ for each side. Mazda has so much fratures locked or not available in US.
They dont even offer the kick to open the trunk door in US and many more extras that they have for many years in Europe and other markets.
Some of those features can be unlocked with software indeed but Mazda is keeping their software "closed" and secret. Vs VW for example where there is lots of licensed tools thet offer programming and enabling features.
but may be thats why the 2022- headlights are near 2000$ for each side. Mazda has so much fratures locked or not available in US.They dont even offer the kick to open the trunk door in US and many more extras that they have for many years in Europe and other markets.
Some of those features can be unlocked with software indeed but Mazda is keeping their software "closed" and secret. Vs VW for example where there is lots of licensed tools thet offer programming and enabling features.
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- 2020 CX-5 GT AWD
I have it this way! I removed the DRL relay and placed the light indicator stalk on parking position and that's it.
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- 2016.5 CX-5 GT AWD titanium/black 2016 Miata Club ST MT white
This to me is hilarious! You guys want to turn off a safety feature so that you can, once a year, take a Christmas light drive.
Do you reenable the DRLs after the drive? No? Why not?
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- 2014 & 2019 CX-5 Touring(s)
I'm not sure what "adaptive" means. I know my 2023 CX-50 has steerable lights that move when you turn the steering wheel. But if you mean intelligent lighting that can dim certain areas (like for oncoming cars), it does not have that.
7eregrine
The man, the myth, the legend
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- Land of Cleve
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- 2016.5 CX5
I know the feature is not available but they could be the same lights used in Japan as the cars (at least the 5) are built there. They could just be dumbed down. Volvo Audi and BMW do this. Or are you saying you know for sure these are specifically built different?
Tried many times but finally worked for me on my 23 turbo sig.
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- 2024 CX5 Akera G25
Adaptive LED means that parts of the lights automatically dip when a vehicle is approaching or when you are approaching the back of a vehicle ahead of you.
We have had them here in Australia on CX5 high spec models for over 10 years.
how do they work? Well….
For example, when set on auto high beam, the high beam on both headlights is fully on, but when a vehicle approaches from the other direction, only part the headlights on that side of the car dip back to low beam setting so as not to blind the oncoming vehicle. The remaining parts stay on high beam so that the sidewalk etc stay fully illuminated.
And it all happens automatically.
Once you have them and see how they work, you will want them on your car.
This animation from Mazda gives a pretty good video on how they work.
Adaptive LED Headlights (ALH) | Mazda Australia
ALH individually controls a number of LEDs to broaden visibility at low speeds, avoid dazzling others on high beam, and extend vision at highway speeds.
Regarding disabling DRL’s, which have a proven safety benefit, just so you could see the Christmas lights better, how would you feel if an inattentive driver then crashed into the car and occupants were injured or worse? DRL’s are proven to reduce these kinds of crashes significantly.
I think that would likely qualify for a Darwin Award.
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N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T ... 2024 MX-5 RF GT
Crying out loud, just for the sake of this specific example, you have obviously never been to an area that has these displays. Everyone is driving 5 mph with parking lights on. There are no unseen cars and there are no accidents. "DRL disable" does not mean you have no lights on your car.
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- 2024 CX5 Akera G25
Crying out loud, Im not talking about crashes at 5mph when driving through the XMas light
Streets, I am talking about at any other time! The Xmas lights scenario came up purely because some used it as justification for disabling the DRL’s!
So you are saying that you’re going to go through all the rigmarole in that procedure to turn the DRL’s BACK ON after you finish viewing the lights? I bet thats not what any of the posters here who have disabled their DRL’s have done…. Or plan to do.
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- 2020 CX-5 GT AWD
DRL lights have their benefits in low visibility conditions. I think we can all agree that they help drivers to see other cars approaching, for example. On a normal day, not so much. If you can't see a car approaching, on a normal day, it's not DRL's fault. It's probably you starring at your cellphone and at that point you shouldn't even be on the road.
N7turbo
2023 CX-5 2.5T ... 2024 MX-5 RF GT
Nope, because I drive with the parking lights on until headlights become necessary based on the conditions. Parking = Front halos, side markers, and tail lights. There is never a time when there are no lights on my car. And from the sounds of it, this is even safer than people who rely on DRLs that don't turn on the rear lights.
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