I think it was a bunt. They couldn't pull off 4 different vehicles in the time allotted and laid down a sacrifice bunt with the CX-70. But does any other manufactuer make duplicate models? I get tailoring things to a specific market, but the U.S. is a gigantic market that they keep screwing up.
I'm struggling to see what the CX-60 brings over a top level CX-5 aside from extra weight and bulk. Unless you're a semi-luxury shopper who doesn't care as much about the extra cost. Then again, if that's your buyer, they are probably shopping other brands like BMW, Audi, Porsche, etc.
I agree with you and I think this was the intention. I was waiting for the CX70 and I was willing to bite the bullet on the length, however the top trim comes with ugly wheels and it doesn't come in Artisan Red. Plus I am not sold on plastic cladding on front fascia vs the more elegant look on the CX90. End results, will probably do a 3yr lease on a CX90 hopefully in this time, they will come with something more reasonable in the lineup.
Add me to this.
Huh ? Did you sat inside the top trim CX90 ? CX5 is a nice car but it is really dated, not to mention RWD architecture vs FWD, more powerful and smooth I6 engine vs the four popper, double wishbone suspension, turning radius better than the CX5. Do you want me to continue ?
The inline 6 turbo, mainly. But the overall vehicle is aging and should be replaced with the CX60. I don't care what they do with the CX50, it's got a weird interior and not enough headroom in the back seats.
I'm sure it's a nice motor but that's not nearly enough to justify the rest of the car. I mean a few mods to the 2.5T can close the gap and you'll keep the better driving/handling vehicle.
I've owned several turbo vehicles - the DI4 turbo in my Speed3 revved high to generate power. You could mod them but they were prone to throwing rods through the block. That's not what I'm after. I got far more power and a smoother engine from the inline 6 with a turbo.
Puts existing dealer stock in a bit of a pickle for the CX90s. One dealer near me has a $4k gap between the same vehicle ordering new and the one that's been on the lot for 60+ days.
I would expect Mazda to help resolve that issue. The bigger problem is that Mazda US will have a communications nightmare once existing CX-90 customers find out their vehicle just dropped in price and will likely continue at this price for the 2025 model year. I have never seen this outside of EVs. I wonder who thought this would be a good idea.
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A 2.5L 4 cylinder turbo is not even in the same ballpark with a 3.3L inline 6 turbo. [The Twin Turbo 3.0L BMW S58B30T0 produces 503HP and 479ftlb of torque] That 3.3L inline 6 could easily produce 400hp without much effort. But the other trick is rear wheel drive which then distributes the weight better along the axis of the car instead of having most of it sitting on the front axle. That is the problem with most of these vehicles and why they push through corners. They have all that weight sitting on the front axle.
The 2.5T is not a high revving motor. Have you driven one? It uses a small turbo and larger displacement cylinders than many other 4 cylinder motors. It makes a ton of torque at low to mid revs and falls flat after 5K RPM.
In a CX-60? A quick search shows the 0-60 times and top speed are the same. The increase in power is offset by the increase in weight. Except you will never offset the weight in the turns.
Again, not in disagreement that the larger motor is better.
The AWD Turbo CX-5 is 50/50 for weight distribution, so that is not the issue.
Looks like a textbook lesson in how not to market cars!
Mazda US really screwed up with this approach. The CX-70 is $1k cheaper than than the CX-90 in the Canada. I guess the US can expect a $1k price drop on the CX-70 next year.
Under the skin and badges, it's a Chevy Blazer. They bought most of it and slapped emblems on it. The interior screams GM parts bin.Hey Mazda, Honda made a 2-Row Midsize BEV SUV and it's 192" long! Might want to look into this before you drop your next minivan sized 2-Row SUV. I'm thinking they are on to something here!
https://www.inverse.com/tech/honda-prologue-electric-suv-ev-release-price
I wouldn't use the Prologue as an example of how to do midsize. If the related LYRIQ, Chevy Blazer EV, and upcoming Acura ZDX are any indication, it's only midsize from an exterior point of view and the interiors are competing w/the compact class! As a matter of fact, the trunks range from 25.5 to 28 ft3, which is smaller than the Toyota Venza's 28.8 ft3, believe it or not!Hey Mazda, Honda made a 2-Row Midsize BEV SUV and it's 192" long! Might want to look into this before you drop your next minivan sized 2-Row SUV. I'm thinking they are on to something here!
https://www.inverse.com/tech/honda-prologue-electric-suv-ev-release-price
I'm not vouching for the quality or functionality of the thing, only that they produced a 192" 2-Row instead of a minivan. At this point because of the state of the technology, state of the infrastructure and my use cases, a BEV does not work for me.
