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fr0st said:
yeah well if he puts everything back stock he can go to the dealer and get a new motor..

now to all on this forum, name me ONE of you, that, in HIS shoes, would NOT take the car to the dealer and get a FREE motor...

i know i would...

come on now.. his gonna spend 3k$ for a forged block.. why not spent zero and get a new motor in the process..

how many of you have had problems with warranty and you know you did nothing wrong?

Me! Only because it would give me the excuse to take $3k out of my savings to have a motor that will take it.
 
You must be nuts if you think you can get a warranty motor out of this. mazda would be downright stupid to do that. You took the chance at running twice the stock boost (dunno what you were thinking), and now you gotta pay for it. I thought all the horror stories on here about "I blew running 10psi on stock motor" would have opened some eyes, but apparently not.
 
guys, calm the **** down, lol, AFC is installed, i thought you meant standalone ems, and also, it's not a factory warranty, it's from Auto One Warranty Specialists, they cover the whole drivetrain, motor and turbo, $1100 got me a new 100k warranty, there's no tear down cost or anything outta pocket except for the forged internals and putting them in the motor, i don't have to take my car to mazda either, i can take it anywhere i see fit, go and buy warranty's like this, it's worth it, i blew my old es2.0 motor too about a year ago, same warranty, nothing outta pocket.

PS: no need to get b****y in here, we're all friends (hi)
 

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fr0st said:
well for some unknown reason they didn,t make their homework..

1- some blew their motors with the STOCK boost..

2 - the LSD is crap.. unless welded

3- the exaust maniflld will RARELY go over 60 000 miles without cracking.. ever seen a exaust manifld crack on a bpt ?..oh and it cost 1300$ cdn to replace..

atleast if mazda would have made the turbo system by themselves instead giving this out to callaway

you know what Frost? I've read a lot of your posts and I've come to the conclusion that you're an idiot.

I remember your argument where you were trying to justify running catless, but this one tops even that.

Read the 10 pages that fkmp5 posted.

Retards like that guy and you claiming you would do the same thing make it harder for the poor bastards who have legitimate claims.

As for your list of 3, I'm at 86,000 KM's, stock motor, slightly raised boost, the original LSD and Exhaust manifold.
 
fkmp5 said:
fr0st, please read all 10 pages here:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123665485

then you may try arguing your point again. but you'll see how many people do not agree with the decision to have mazda cover the warranty on something that has been modified.

it's worth it for the rest of us to start printing and forwarding these posts to mazdausa. then we'll see how much warranty they offer after reading some bloke running 12 psi all day and then blowing his motor.

ps: none of this applies here, so i disregarded it all.

(drinks) right back at you dude
 
S.A.MSP said:
guys, calm the **** down, lol, AFC is installed, i thought you meant standalone ems, and also, it's not a factory warranty, it's from Auto One Warranty Specialists, they cover the whole drivetrain, motor and turbo, $1100 got me a new 100k warranty, there's no tear down cost or anything outta pocket except for the forged internals and putting them in the motor, i don't have to take my car to mazda either, i can take it anywhere i see fit, go and buy warranty's like this, it's worth it, i blew my old es2.0 motor too about a year ago, same warranty, nothing outta pocket.

PS: no need to get b****y in here, we're all friends (hi)


please post more details on this warranty.

I can't believe that you can basically do anything you want to abuse the car, blow it up, and get it fixed for the low cost of $1100

The company who wrote the policy would be out of business.
 
MS MSP said:
please post more details on this warranty.

I can't believe that you can basically do anything you want to abuse the car, blow it up, and get it fixed for the low cost of $1100

The company who wrote the policy would be out of business.

well i called them yesterday, paid a down payment of $400 then $60 a month till it's paid off, they send you an additive for the radiotor too(no idea why), warranty becomes active after 1000 miles and 90 days, can't take ur car in before that but after that you can take it as many times as you want, and they cover the turbo too, my dad got the same warranty for his truck, this is no bull s*** i promise, i've done it before
 
honestly i agree with both sides here...i mean it is totally ****** up that you blow your car up with your own mods then get a free engine by putting it back to stock, but at the same time if it happened to me at the point im at in my life right now (having to pay 3000 to get a new motor would devistate all my other finances and make it almost impossible to live...) Id absolutely take my car to get a new motor(if i had the money id totally forge and leave mazda out of it...but that money just doesnt exist right now for me)

But i dont think id feel that bad making mazda buy me a brand new engine that probably doesnt cost that much for them to make considering how much they **** anyone at the dealership for parts and labor...plus they are a huge corporation and have the overhead to replace an engine once in awhile...i mean they produce how many cars over a year and make how many thousands of dollars per car sold?

What it comes down to is that it's a dog eat dog world and if i cant make money to support my family because i have no car because i blew my modded engine and my morals prevent me from pullin a fast one over on mazda then im really only screwing myself and my family.
 
S.A.MSP said:
thank you crash, well put!

anytime, and i certainly would feel bad doing something like that because the cost does just trickle back down to "us" as the consumer, but sometimes you have to look out for number 1.

and it is really easy to pass judgement on someone for doing something like replacing an engine under warranty when it was your own fault it broke, but unless it happens to you you dont know how you are going to react.
 
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crashkelly said:
anytime, and i certainly would feel bad doing something like that because the cost does just trickle back down to "us" as the consumer, but sometimes you have to look out for number 1.

and it is really easy to pass judgement on someone for doing something like replacing an engine under warranty when it was your own fault it broke, but unless it happens to you you dont know how you are going to react.


exactly, the last thing i need is for a bunch of strangers to b**** me out, when they don't even know the whole story, what's the use of a warranty if you can't use it, putting everything back to stock and then taking it to the dealer is only a factor when it's the factory warranty, i bought a new warranty, they don't care if the car is modded, they will even fix a broken LSD, it's pretty much in a way an investment for my car
 
S.A.MSP said:
well i called them yesterday, paid a down payment of $400 then $60 a month till it's paid off, they send you an additive for the radiotor too(no idea why), warranty becomes active after 1000 miles and 90 days, can't take ur car in before that but after that you can take it as many times as you want, and they cover the turbo too, my dad got the same warranty for his truck, this is no bull s*** i promise, i've done it before

So you bought the warranty after you killed your car?
 
S.A.MSP said:
exactly, the last thing i need is for a bunch of strangers to b**** me out, when they don't even know the whole story, what's the use of a warranty if you can't use it, putting everything back to stock and then taking it to the dealer is only a factor when it's the factory warranty, i bought a new warranty, they don't care if the car is modded, they will even fix a broken LSD, it's pretty much in a way an investment for my car

yeah honestly i dont see how anyone can get pissed at you if the warranty isnt even from the factory, i mean that really is a good investment if you ask me.
 
crashkelly said:
yeah honestly i dont see how anyone can get pissed at you if the warranty isnt even from the factory, i mean that really is a good investment if you ask me.

yea no s***, my dad didn't even get pissed, he laughed at me, it was like 150 degrees so my dad said get in the car start it and turn up the A/C, what an ass huh?
 
a friend of mine boosted like 21 psi and blew his motor and mazda still replaced it. some of the techs showed me his motor and even told me that they could tell that he had boosted it. they still replaced his motor and under warranty, but then again the mazda dealership over here is really cool. they are always replacing and fixing my hassle free and not to mention they always give me really nice loaners.
 
jdm4lyf9 said:
a friend of mine boosted like 21 psi and blew his motor and mazda still replaced it. some of the techs showed me his motor and even told me that they could tell that he had boosted it. they still replaced his motor and under warranty, but then again the mazda dealership over here is really cool. they are always replacing and fixing my hassle free and not to mention they always give me really nice loaners.

Mmmm, I wish my dealership treated me like that. Or atleast be a little nicer.
 
yea my dealership isn't too nice but i don't care cause i can take my car anywhere since it's not a factory warranty, they cover up to $3000 so i only need to pay like $500 and i'll have a forged motor
 
Wow, lots of drama in this thread. Take everything on the "intraweb" with grain of salt dude, take care of your s*** and get it back on the road.

I agree with both sides of the argument. I'm at 65K with stock motor, lsd, exhaust mani and running 8-9lbs since 12K. It's all in how you drive, if you beat the crap out of your car every time you get in it then of course it's not going to last. If you mod beyond the limits then expect to pay for it.

That being said, Mazda definitly could've done better with this car. bad stock tune, crappy stereo components, and a retarded rear sway bar setup...nuff said.

Edit* On second thought I suppose Mazda can't be blamed for Kenwood's crappy stuff. However another thing they could've done better is used a more efficient intercooler and not some diesel parts bin crap in order to save "X" amount of dollars.
 
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