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[Perusal]

We dont get anything like that ever whether round town or on motorways. We have the 2.2 175 version but up to 3000 miles the average was around 37mpg and on our recent 3000 mile trek round europe it was low 30's. We are not impressed at all with the fuel economy.

I have noticed two things about the fuel economy on this car

1) it is incredibly sensitive to how heavily you use the throttle. I am not a slow driver but I have learned to temper my exuberance on occasions if I am trying to achieve a decent mpg. For example, I filled the car up yesterday about 10 miles from home and reset the gauges. About 8 miles in travelling x-country I checked the readout and it was showing 53.5 mpg when I found myself behind a "slower" vehicle at which point I accelerated past and kept going. In those last 2 miles the average for the trip dropped from 53 to 51 overall. Not exactly a scientific test but once again demonstrating the sensitivity of the throttle. I do that particular run quite regularly and average 48-50 mpg over the life of a tank but if I decide to use the revs at all the mpg easily drops to 42-44.

2) I have also found the car to be quite sensitive to fuel quality. Now I know there are many people who don't believe the adages about branded and supermarket fuels but as I have stated elsewhere I spent the last 26 years of my career in the oil industry including 11 years at a research lab where we developed fuels and lubes so irrespective of others opinions I allow that to influence my purchasing behaviours. Hence the car rarely has supermarket fuel in it more typically using Esso or Shell (because that's what's local to me). As stated above my motorway economy is 40-44. The 40 is generally achieved with standard fuels but a few weeks back I had to make a round trip to Newcastle and back (600 miles) so just for a change I used Esso Supreme and that's when I achieved 44 mpg. The journey up wasn't great, lots of hold ups, but on the way back down the car sat at 80-85mph for most of the journey.

Might be worth trying a different fuel if you are using supermarket fuel, you have nothing to lose.....

 

[Geoff]

Did you have the wheels rotated at service as this should balance the wear out a bit. That price you quoted is the best price i have seen these Toyo 19inch tyres, where was that?

I didn't have the wheels rotated as it means you then need to change all fours tyres in one go.... I prefer to get two now and then two later.
Got the tyres in Walter Young Mazda, Broughshane.

 

[xtrailman]

With AWD its recommended to balance the tyre wear to protect the transmission, that's why the tyres should be rotated every 5K

 

[m4zda.man]

I haven't been able to read incoming text messages for some time, although originally I could, and no changes made to my Galaxy S2. I spoke to Tomtom, and got standard reply!

So it's going to my Mazda dealer next week to see what they can do . . .

 

[daveyhampton]

I have noticed two things about the fuel economy on this car

1) it is incredibly sensitive to how heavily you use the throttle. I am not a slow driver but I have learned to temper my exuberance on occasions if I am trying to achieve a decent mpg. For example, I filled the car up yesterday about 10 miles from home and reset the gauges. About 8 miles in travelling x-country I checked the readout and it was showing 53.5 mpg when I found myself behind a "slower" vehicle at which point I accelerated past and kept going. In those last 2 miles the average for the trip dropped from 53 to 51 overall. Not exactly a scientific test but once again demonstrating the sensitivity of the throttle. I do that particular run quite regularly and average 48-50 mpg over the life of a tank but if I decide to use the revs at all the mpg easily drops to 42-44.

2) I have also found the car to be quite sensitive to fuel quality. Now I know there are many people who don't believe the adages about branded and supermarket fuels but as I have stated elsewhere I spent the last 26 years of my career in the oil industry including 11 years at a research lab where we developed fuels and lubes so irrespective of others opinions I allow that to influence my purchasing behaviours. Hence the car rarely has supermarket fuel in it more typically using Esso or Shell (because that's what's local to me). As stated above my motorway economy is 40-44. The 40 is generally achieved with standard fuels but a few weeks back I had to make a round trip to Newcastle and back (600 miles) so just for a change I used Esso Supreme and that's when I achieved 44 mpg. The journey up wasn't great, lots of hold ups, but on the way back down the car sat at 80-85mph for most of the journey.

Might be worth trying a different fuel if you are using supermarket fuel, you have nothing to lose.....

At 85mph we are lucky to get 30mpg

 

[KJO]

I haven't been able to read incoming text messages for some time, although originally I could, and no changes made to my Galaxy S2. I spoke to Tomtom, and got standard reply!

So it's going to my Mazda dealer next week to see what they can do . . .

Text message integration is nothing to do with TomTom - they only deal with Navigation related issues.

Originally text messaging would not work for me with my Nexus 4 phone, I always got a 'download failed, please try later' message. Then one day I factory reset the phone, and text messaging starting working OK. It has since stopped working again, now once again displaying the 'download failed, please try later' message. I'm confident that a phone factory reset will cure the problem again, or maybe even deleting all of my old messages from the phone, as I think it may be related to the number of text messages stored on the phone.
Perhaps you want to try deleting your old messages from your phone or factory resetting it, which may save you a trip to the dealers.
I'll try resetting my phone again one day, but tbh I'm not that bothered about having text messages in the car when I'm driving.

 

[m4zda.man]

Text message integration is nothing to do with TomTom - they only deal with Navigation related issues.

Originally text messaging would not work for me with my Nexus 4 phone, I always got a 'download failed, please try later' message. Then one day I factory reset the phone, and text messaging starting working OK. It has since stopped working again, now once again displaying the 'download failed, please try later' message. I'm confident that a phone factory reset will cure the problem again, or maybe even deleting all of my old messages from the phone, as I think it may be related to the number of text messages stored on the phone.
Perhaps you want to try deleting your old messages from your phone or factory resetting it, which may save you a trip to the dealers.
I'll try resetting my phone again one day, but tbh I'm not that bothered about having text messages in the car when I'm driving.

HI,
I thought it was part of the Live Services package. I had read somewhere that the problem was caused by too many messages on the phone, and tried deleting them but made no difference. Just to be clear on my particular problem, I get the standard notification to say a text message has been received and do I want to download it. I select download and after maybe 30 seconds it says download complete and displays a list of messages, with the most recent at the top. When I select this one . . . nothing happens. I'm reluctant to try factory resetting the phone. Car's still under warranty, so will see what Maxda say.

 

[xtrailman]

I have the same problem, down loads but does nothing when you click on any on the list, and the speak function has stopped working.

Getting a service next month so will ask dealer to look at it, but not hopeful.

 

[Nighthaunt]

Well for a quick update:

My dads off now to pick up his Crystal White 2.0l CX-5 - delayed by 2 hours and counting as dealer hadn't realised how much work was involved in fitting the illuminated scuff plates, welcome lights and auto folding mirror kit. Quite glad got 10% off the price off the accessories and free fitting - mind you dealer didn't know about them - had to show the dealer Mazda.co.UK website with the dealer fit accessories - bet they are wishing they had charged for fitting now

Its then off tomorrow to Oxford for Liquid Elements Shield treatment - was going to go for Opti Coat Pro after seeing pictures on here but the detailer recommended LE - the work I've seen on Bentleys etc looks incredible. Should have some photos Wednesday when back from Oxford - although a 200 mile journey means won't be clean.

Now just a case of waiting till 30th July for my Soul Red 2.2 to arrive - gives dealer 10 days to fit all the accessories so will hopefully collect on 30th and then up to Oxford myself after (date to be confirmed) to get the LE Shield treatment on mine

 

[m4zda.man]

I have the same problem, down loads but does nothing when you click on any on the list, and the speak function has stopped working.

Getting a service next month so will ask dealer to look at it, but not hopeful.

I went to my local Mazda dealer today to have them look at the problem. He did a routine satnav software update, then played with the car's settings, resets, etc. Initially he tried his own HTC One mobile, which did communicate with the CX5 system and he was able to read texts. Then he tried it again, and it wouldn't work. He then tried my Galaxy S2, but no joy, same as before. Back into his office, and returned with a print out from this site: http://www.mazdahandsfree.com/howto-findaphone?language=

It appears to show that the S2 (or his HTC) will not receive text messages!! As I said previously, mine worked fine up to a couple of months ago, and furthermore I was told by the dealer when I bought the car 9 months ago that it was compatible.

Lost for words.

 

[daveyhampton]

Well for a quick update:

My dads off now to pick up his Crystal White 2.0l CX-5 - delayed by 2 hours and counting as dealer hadn't realised how much work was involved in fitting the illuminated scuff plates, welcome lights and auto folding mirror kit. Quite glad got 10% off the price off the accessories and free fitting - mind you dealer didn't know about them - had to show the dealer Mazda.co.UK website with the dealer fit accessories - bet they are wishing they had charged for fitting now

Its then off tomorrow to Oxford for Liquid Elements Shield treatment - was going to go for Opti Coat Pro after seeing pictures on here but the detailer recommended LE - the work I've seen on Bentleys etc looks incredible. Should have some photos Wednesday when back from Oxford - although a 200 mile journey means won't be clean.

Now just a case of waiting till 30th July for my Soul Red 2.2 to arrive - gives dealer 10 days to fit all the accessories so will hopefully collect on 30th and then up to Oxford myself after (date to be confirmed) to get the LE Shield treatment on mine

How much does the Liquid Elements cost?

 

[Nighthaunt]

From krystalkleendetail - 495 - this includes full pre wash and washing, single stage polish to remove any swirls, and minimum of 3 layers of LE Shield (Base 1 + Base 2 + Shield ).

24 hours work - from detailingworld know just the base 1 and 2 bottles cost 60 each and Shield is 140 to buy - so actually not paying much for all that labour.

Its adds a 9.2H hardness coating on top of paint - normal clear coat by comparison has about 2-3H hardness so should avoid swirls and resist chemicals. That's also wheels and glass treated and all interior done Inc leather and carpets protected.

If your on Facebook do a search for Krystal Kleen detail - Marc has posted some photo's of the work in progress on my dads CX5 in Crystal White - and photos of final layers on being left to cure in temperature controlled building overnight - looking incredibly glossy

Hope that helps

Alex

 

[SuffolkBoy]

Hi,
Just back from a trip to France - a round trip of 1672 miles and we got 50.2 mpg over the whole trip, which I am pretty pleased with the figures are calculated after filling the tank to the neck each time.
This was broken down as follows:-
Suffolk - Loire Valley. 432 miles; 47.4 mpg
Loire Valley - Carcassonne (return) 777 miles; 52.7 mpg
Loire Valley - Suffolk. 463 miles; 49.0 mpg
I used cruise control at 110 kph whenever possible on the motorways.
Overall now the car has done 4884 miles at 47.7 mpg.
My last car, a Peugeot 5008 1.6 Hdi had done 6147 miles when I sold it at 47.4 mpg, so I think the CX-5 is doing well
considering the size of the car & power available compared to the Pug.

 

[daveyhampton]

Hi,
Just back from a trip to France - a round trip of 1672 miles and we got 50.2 mpg over the whole trip, which I am pretty pleased with the figures are calculated after filling the tank to the neck each time.
This was broken down as follows:-
Suffolk - Loire Valley. 432 miles; 47.4 mpg
Loire Valley - Carcassonne (return) 777 miles; 52.7 mpg
Loire Valley - Suffolk. 463 miles; 49.0 mpg
I used cruise control at 110 kph whenever possible on the motorways.
Overall now the car has done 4884 miles at 47.7 mpg.
My last car, a Peugeot 5008 1.6 Hdi had done 6147 miles when I sold it at 47.4 mpg, so I think the CX-5 is doing well
considering the size of the car & power available compared to the Pug.

We get nothing like this! Its amazing how different ours is to yours. What engine do you have? 2.2D 175?? I drove from St Ives, Cambs to Stansted airport and back the other day at 65mph on the cruise control and got 43mpg average for the trip.

 

[SuffolkBoy]

We get nothing like this! Its amazing how different ours is to yours. What engine do you have? 2.2D 175?? I drove from St Ives, Cambs to Stansted airport and back the other day at 65mph on the cruise control and got 43mpg average for the trip.

 

[SuffolkBoy]

It is the 2.2D 150 SportNav version, daveyhampton.
I always use supermarket diesel too

 

[Perusal]

It is the 2.2D 150 SportNav version, daveyhampton.
I always use supermarket diesel too

Interesting to see you used cruise control at 110km/h which equates to about 68mph on your speedo. In reality you were probably doing an actual speed of around 65mph after allowing for speedo error. I too have found excellent economy figures at around this speed.

However put another 10 mph on that and you will likely be looking at something in the low to mid 40s. This is where I refer above to the sensitivity of fuel consumption vs how heavy you use the accelerator.

Bottom line is that the official lab induced economy numbers are way out in everyday driving and more so than with many other manufacturers. That said, the CX5 is still one of the most economical SUVs around.

 

[Pluvia Plumbum]

Aerodynamics start to impact more at greater speeds and the CX5 has the aerodynamics of a brick, the rolling road tests are not done at motorway speeds anyway and have zero air resistance hence there will always be a lower performance for most vehicles in real world conditions.

Just done a couple of longer Motorway and fast A road Journeys and got an Average 41 mpg, which is ok for an auto. It does seem that he 150ps manuals deliver better potential mpg than the Tuned up Sport models. As always it does depend on your driving style though.

Speaking of MPG I am on a pre launch test drive of the New Audi eTron tomorrow. 145 Mpg sounds tempting !
Happy motoring !

 

[Mountkeen]

My MPG continues to get better particularly with longer motorway runs. The overall mpg has gone from circa 38mpg when the car was new to around 42mpg currently with 3000 miles on the clock. A fast trip from Yorkshire home to the West Country on Tuesday saw me keeping things at a pretty steady 80mph most of the way and the consumption just continued to improve. So I'm thoroughly confused about the "true" economy of the car. I must say though that the aerodynamics are much better than a brick. my old X-Trail...now that WAS a brick.....barely managed better than 35mpg.

 

[Geoff]

My MPG continues to get better particularly with longer motorway runs. The overall mpg has gone from circa 38mpg when the car was new to around 42mpg currently with 3000 miles on the clock. A fast trip from Yorkshire home to the West Country on Tuesday saw me keeping things at a pretty steady 80mph most of the way and the consumption just continued to improve. So I'm thoroughly confused about the "true" economy of the car. I must say though that the aerodynamics are much better than a brick. my old X-Trail...now that WAS a brick.....barely managed better than 35mpg.

I have noticed that fuel consumption is better during warmer weather. I get around 35mpg in colder weather and around 38mpg in warmer weather.