Blytheville Tour/Pro...who's coming?

Andy Hollis

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2012 Mazda 2 Sport
Ann & I are signed up.

I have it on good authority that Jan Rowe will be running her MINI in STF for the remainder of the season and she's going to be there for both events. Co-driver David Hedderick will be running the car in the Pro only. The car has moderate setup on it so far, but David is a very good driver. So we'll get a nice read on how the MINI and 2 stack up. They'll be on R-S3's.

Andres? Erv? Bueller?
 
I'll be there trying to work out whether or not I'll have a codriver. Sorry haven't checked the forum in a minute... you wouldn't happen to have any idea about my issues on the car turning easier and sharper stiffening the front would you? Is it because of the concrete?
 
I'll be there trying to work out whether or not I'll have a codriver. Sorry haven't checked the forum in a minute... you wouldn't happen to have any idea about my issues on the car turning easier and sharper stiffening the front would you? Is it because of the concrete?
Looking at pics of your car, I'll bet money that you are bottoming out the suspension. Without stiffer springs, you can't run that low and still have sufficient travel. Once the suspension bottoms, no amount of shock adjustment will have any effect. Put zip ties on the shock shafts to verify
 
My RCA is parallel with the ground though... I guess I could be bottoming it out... I'm not really sure...
 
Bumping this up. Who's in?

We've got 3 so far for the Pro and 2 for the Tour.

In addition to showing the Solo community that STF is for real, the courses at Blytheville are usually excellent designs. And if you want some veteran feedback on your car's setup, I'd be happy to take a couple of passes on the practice course in it.

Oh yeah, and Toyo pays three places (assuming we get five), so more people will take home cash than won't. Plus, Mazda pays top two.
 
and hawk pays money too. If you are running there pads.

I think we will have the total we need I have a codriver he just hasn't signed up yet.
 
Also RS-3's may be a good choice with the temps, I am a little concerned about the tires going greasy on me. My codriver will be bringing along a set of them just in case we aren't keeping the toyos cool enough.
 
Anxious to see how this event goes. I know that it's been said by others here, but I too am living vicariously though you national-level hot shoes!
 
Andy,

Do you think that higher spring rates and increased ride height are the ticket? I would like it if someone would spend the money to figure out the camber curves before I spend another 500-1000 on a precission alignment (like I did with my Miata-500). The Miata suffers quite a bit when lowered and needs very high spring rates as well as other tricks due to the physical location of the mounting plane of the steering rack (optimised for the OEM suspension setup).

Just asking before I dump money in a sub/barely-optimal B-Spec package.
 
Andy,

Do you think that higher spring rates and increased ride height are the ticket? I would like it if someone would spend the money to figure out the camber curves before I spend another 500-1000 on a precission alignment (like I did with my Miata-500). The Miata suffers quite a bit when lowered and needs very high spring rates as well as other tricks due to the physical location of the mounting plane of the steering rack (optimised for the OEM suspension setup).

Just asking before I dump money in a sub/barely-optimal B-Spec package.

If you are spending $500-1000 on a "precision alignment", you are doing it wrong, IMO. That is money better spent elsewhere.

The rear isn't even adjustable, so if you haven't wrecked the car, you should be fine. And that's typically the biggest issue...getting the rear square to the chassis. Once done (and it comes that way from the factory), you have only front toe and camber to worry about.

Here's what I did: Set front toe to zero using a tape measure. Very easy to do even with one person (better with two). Pick a height from ground level (about 4") and string a tape measure from the center groove on your OE tires on one side of the car to the other and read the distance to a similar place on the opposite tire. I use duct tape to hold one end while I read the other. Now flip it around and read it on the other side of the tires (front side versus back side). Adjust tie-rod ends equally side-to-side to get to zero. Doesn't have to be exact. +/- 1/8" total is fine. If your steering wheel ends up off-center, adjust each tie-rod the same amount in opposite directions until it is centered again.

For camber, you will need a gauge and a flat surface. Google "DIY camber adjustment" for lots of ideas. I use a SmartGauge, but simple inclinometers from the hardware store also work fine. And you are probably just going to max it out anyway, assuming you have the camber bolts or have slotted the struts.

For events that I drive to, I change the toe when I get there and swap tires. Takes just a minute to rotate each tie-rod one -half turn (mark them) towards toe-out. That should be in the vicinity of 3/16" total.

And I didn't even corner-weight my car. I just weighed it.

Spend your money elsewhere. It will pay bigger dividends.

PS: Yes, I believe higher springs rates will allow you to spend more time in the sweet spot of the suspension, and minimize bump and roll steer inherent in the strut suspension.
 
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