ALL 2.3 DZR speeds Want a TMIC
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It is currently setup to utilize the stock pipe, as we have found that the stock one does not restrict flow with the increased core size. It also keeps cost down.
We could very easily offer it as an option or a standalone part if there would be enough interest in one. It would also be easy to add in a small bung with a plug that could be removed to add in methanol injection.
Thoughts?
We could very easily offer it as an option or a standalone part if there would be enough interest in one. It would also be easy to add in a small bung with a plug that could be removed to add in methanol injection.
Thoughts?
zoomzoom12983
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- 2008.5 CWP MS3
real curious about this one, interested.
skatethesea
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- 2010 Speed 3
Im in. Totally down for TMIC action.
Just my personal thoughts. I've read a small amount on intercooler design. No expert, just read a bit. But, in general, you are supposed to be better off with more fins that are shorter, than fewer, longer fins. The stock unit, and other aftermarket units have fewer but longer fins. So, that would mean that in theory, it would be better if the fins were turned 90 degrees from the way they are. The duct is like 22 inches long. It should in theory be possible to make an intercooler where the core is something like 21 inches by 6 inches or so. And that would be, at least normally, a much better design.
On the other hand, given the proximity to the engine, the core may benefit from longer fins even at the expense of fewer fins -- this is the compromise that Mazda chose. So, I guess it would take making some prototypes to see.
At any rate, there is only so much that can be done in the TMIC location. Thicknesses that have been tried are 3", 3.25" and 3.5". But, the 3.5" hits the duct. Maybe someone could re-design the duct to increase airflow. But, how much improvement could be made? Thicker is always better, but how much effort is it worth to add an extra 1/4" thickness?
What I'm saying is, I'm not completely certain how much room for improvement is left compared to already available options. If turning it sideways would work, then that is possibly something to try.
That, and, yeah, must have a better cold pipe. I can't believe nobody has come to market with a redesigned cold pipe. The market does NOT need another intercooler if it uses the stock cold pipe.
There was a project that TRZ was considering, where they were going to include a cold pipe, and, if I recall an option for CO2 coils inside of the intercooler. But, they dropped the project. It would be cool if someone would pick that project back up.
EDIT: I see that Corksport has already said they are using stock cold pipe. Oh well.
Someone else mentioned the AutoEXE suction kit. That is an upgraded cold pipe, plus a few pieces like silicone hoses. Its $450 because of the Yen exchange rate. Somebody should make something like it for cheaper.
On the other hand, given the proximity to the engine, the core may benefit from longer fins even at the expense of fewer fins -- this is the compromise that Mazda chose. So, I guess it would take making some prototypes to see.
At any rate, there is only so much that can be done in the TMIC location. Thicknesses that have been tried are 3", 3.25" and 3.5". But, the 3.5" hits the duct. Maybe someone could re-design the duct to increase airflow. But, how much improvement could be made? Thicker is always better, but how much effort is it worth to add an extra 1/4" thickness?
What I'm saying is, I'm not completely certain how much room for improvement is left compared to already available options. If turning it sideways would work, then that is possibly something to try.
That, and, yeah, must have a better cold pipe. I can't believe nobody has come to market with a redesigned cold pipe. The market does NOT need another intercooler if it uses the stock cold pipe.
There was a project that TRZ was considering, where they were going to include a cold pipe, and, if I recall an option for CO2 coils inside of the intercooler. But, they dropped the project. It would be cool if someone would pick that project back up.
EDIT: I see that Corksport has already said they are using stock cold pipe. Oh well.
Someone else mentioned the AutoEXE suction kit. That is an upgraded cold pipe, plus a few pieces like silicone hoses. Its $450 because of the Yen exchange rate. Somebody should make something like it for cheaper.
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Speedie6, I definitely understand your concern about someone coming out with a new cold pipe design. We are looking into a new design that would be compatible with the stock TMIC as well as our TMIC once that is released.
We are first wanting to get a TMIC out to market as we are already in the casting phase for the end tanks. Based upon our current projection, it looks like we can get the TMIC kit out for around $459-469.
We are first wanting to get a TMIC out to market as we are already in the casting phase for the end tanks. Based upon our current projection, it looks like we can get the TMIC kit out for around $459-469.
(well provided we get to look at the data behind the piece (HUGE GAINS!!! lol jk))BIGJOHNB20
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This should definitely be an interesting choice if that price holds true. Can't wait to see some pics...
azmavhockey3
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me too!
torque_wrench
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- 2008 Mazdaspeed 3
that's a badass price
blackdragon0731
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FMIC ftw, I already have a Cobb FMIC but if youre gonna spend hundreds on a new intercooler why still settle for a core that WILL eventually get heat soak... FMIC ftw! cooler denser air all day every day!
wheres the groan button
i wouldnt be too happy with that power given your mods......i made more with just an intake and protune
good tune+stock tmic = faster than you
good tmic = no lag
good tmic = 15 minute installation
back on topic
jake can i be a guinea pig plz
i wouldnt be too happy with that power given your mods......i made more with just an intake and protune
good tune+stock tmic = faster than you
good tmic = no lag
good tmic = 15 minute installation
back on topic
jake can i be a guinea pig plz
No pre-order list at the moment, but I will keep you posted on when they are available, so you will be sure to get one.
FYI, we should be releasing our FMIC kit for the 2010 MS3 in the next 2 weeks. I believe they will be $899 for the full kit which includes the ram air intake box for the hood scoop and our turbo inlet pipe.
FYI, we should be releasing our FMIC kit for the 2010 MS3 in the next 2 weeks. I believe they will be $899 for the full kit which includes the ram air intake box for the hood scoop and our turbo inlet pipe.
