Post The Best Pictures of Your Mazda

[Peter5]

not to bash on him but since were talking about atlspace and his P&S ...
hes a graphic designer ( or something like that ) so he sure know his way around photoshop and can manipulate photography like a charm and make it look like a pro Dslr photograph ... but he sure take more than 5 min to ajust his pictures the way he wants them.
he sure knows how to use a point and shoot better than anyone here but im sure his picture straight off the camera is nothing close to an dslr..

dont take it personal Altspace, just to clarifie the difference between spending 45min fixing a picture and taking 5min or no time with an Dslr

 

[Wagonbacker9]

not to bash on him but since were talking about atlspace and his P&S ...
hes a graphic designer ( or something like that ) so he sure know his way around photoshop and can manipulate photography like a charm and make it look like a pro Dslr photograph ... but he sure take more than 5 min to ajust his pictures the way he wants them.
he sure knows how to use a point and shoot better than anyone here but im sure his picture straight off the camera is nothing close to an dslr..

dont take it personal Altspace, just to clarifie the difference between spending 45min fixing a picture and taking 5min or no time with an Dslr

I got flamed for saying roughly the same thing...

 

[Peter5]

haha ... just wait ... i might get rosted 2!!!

 

[ucMP3]

haha ... Just wait ... I might get rosted 2!!!

lol

 

[Laser Blue]

High-end camera or "point & shoot"; top end photo manipulation or straight from the camera to the page; I think the best pics still come from the guy with the best "eye". I've seen pics on here that were clearly taken with great cameras and rendered HDR with software, but the photographer never noticed that there was an over-flowing garbage dumpster directly behind his car when he took the pic.

I still look first for a great "composition", where the lighting, background, etc all contribute to making the picture awesome. One of the guys here who does that as well as anybody is Radar This, imho.

 

[Peter5]

ur right lazer ^^^ but camera wise... if u know how to use a P&S and a DSLR both at their fullest , ull get better results with an Dslr and ull need less time on the computer fixing the picture ... is there only me and Wagon to back up this theory ?!

 

[Wagonbacker9]

I think the theory is commonly accepted... just hard to argue with results, and no one will deny that altspace gets them. lol

 

[not yellow]

 

[Peter5]

thx for the back-to-topic picture ! very nice car , ever tought about wheels spacers ? i need to get some !

 

[not yellow]

thx for the back-to-topic picture ! very nice car , ever tought about wheels spacers ? i need to get some !

thanks! yeah, i've experimented with spacers. but any spacer thick enough to make a difference causes rubbing...

 

[altspace]

Thx guys!

Ya'll are basically correct. True fact, it's all about your creative ability. The camera is simply a tool. Although having the right equipment for what you are trying to achieve in your photo does help quite a bit. That is my current limitation with the P&S, thus I use what I know about the art form and make the best of it. Then it only takes me a minute or two in tweaking to get it just right in post.

For instance, I only have 5 available ISO settings of 50,100,200,400,800. However my exposure adjustment ability is decent. Still, I don't take many night shots because of the cameras limitability. It's old tech and I deal with what I got.....for now.

Here's more info on my P&S which was near top of the line 5 years ago at a cost of $700. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/KonicaMinoltaA200/

 

[Wagonbacker9]

I started playing with exposure on my P&S right before I got my DSLR, and you CAN do a lot of cool stuff with it.

 

[altspace]

Keeping on topic, here's an example of my original and after a quick edit.

 

[Wagonbacker9]

not a bad pic to begin with....

 

[judman13]

man i went to this 4x5 show last night...had some car shot there...man i really miss film...i really miss seeing that art of let the camera do the work not programs...

To a point yes...but almost every editing technique (aside from element removal and extreme photo manipulation) could be done in a dark room with chemicals and post processing techniques people developed over time. Photoshop was created to mimic the techniques used in film for digital pictures and has exploded from there.

well back with the 35mm what u guys were doing in the darkroom is the same as we do on the programs .... except some guys just push it to far.
i like to go as much a i can in the field so i wont have to tweek my pictures 2 much with the programs.

I have always said you need to get it right in the camera first so you do not have to worry about post processing and all that jazz, but some times you cannot help it or post processing will add some element that can never be achieved right out of the camera.

...which is why I am also shooting with an old Canon A-1 35mm, just to really learn what photography is all about...

I hate to say it but that is pretty darn backwards!! There is no need to take a more expensive step back just to think you are stepping forward. Film photography was a great medium...years ago and still has its uses, but it is dying quickly. The reason I say it is a step backwards is because everything you can do with a manual film camera (shutter speed, f/, ISO(ASA), focus) can be controlled just the same with a digital camera. Save yourself the money and hassle and just flip the switch to M and learn that way. It is the exact same thing only with instant feedback and much faster result. I really see no purpose at all for going back to film to "learn" photography. All the same lesson and more can be taught using manual settings on a digital camera.

I don't know much about photography, but it seems like the less advanced the camera is, the more photo taking skill the person needs to get "that" picture. Perfect example is Altspace, he takes some of the best pics but iirc, his cam is 5 years old. Now I don't know the specs, but I know a 5 year old cam doesn't have the technology a brand new top of the line dslr sitting on the shelf right now has, but he makes it work, realllll goodddd.

My buddy wants to get into photography, but he wants $1,000 cam to start out with. I try to tell him you don't need top of the line s*** for your first cam, but he believes the camera makes the picture, not the photographer.

I started shooting with a $250 p+s shoot and quickly (with critique from my dad) grew out of that camera, but I was stuck with it for a few years before we could afford a DSLR. I have since then just about reached what I think to be my limits with my current equipment (for what I want to do). That being said, if you have the cash and desire to learn then go ahead and drop a grand or two on the equipment!! You will have ample room to grow figure things out expand your techniques and abilities and the equipment will not restrict you. however if you just want something to shoot with every once and a while and not worry about it, then yeah scale back because you will be so bumfuzzled by the equipment you will quit.

 

[Laser Blue]

If you can't afford the camera you want today, wait a month... the obsolescence factor in cameras is huge. My dad payed a grand for a Pentax DSLR a few years ago with 6 megapixel resolution. Today you can buy a 10+ megapixel camera with 2 lenses from Nikon for $700 or less.

 

[Laser Blue]

With apologies to Radar This for pimpin' his work for him, here are a couple examples where I think the eye was more valuable than the type of camera or software...

 

[RADAR THIS]

i am old school thinking when it comes to photography...probably due to my dad/mom...with darkrooms yes you can tweak the colors and do some special effects and you can use filters on the lenses as well and all the different lighting tricks to make it look like its digital but not...but you take a different route to get there...i just think it sucks that it gets overshadowed that much...its becoming a lost art (in general)...

 

[RADAR THIS]

 

[judman13]

i am old school thinking when it comes to photography...probably due to my dad/mom...with darkrooms yes you can tweak the colors and do some special effects and you can use filters on the lenses as well and all the different lighting tricks to make it look like its digital but not...but you take a different route to get there...i just think it sucks that it gets overshadowed that much...its becoming a lost art (in general)...

I hardly consider it a lost art...more like any artistic medium. It has just moved from one period to another. As in any form of art; styles, techniques, perspectives all chance with the evolution of culture, technology and ideologies.

anyways...back to cars.