2010 Mazdaspeed3 Officially Launched in Japan
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You're stating the obvious. Of course the price would go up if they raise the hp, that's a no brainer. Heavier, maybe. Slower if AWD, that depends on other upgrades. More expensive, we all know that. Again, the obvious. If Mazda would give the MS3 more power and AWD (which is what MS3 owners, not all, have been wanting for a while), there would be quite a lot of used 1st gens on the lots.
But I really can't speak for everyone else, it's just an observation of what a lot of people want out of the MS3. I already know I'd trade mine in asap, even with the money I've already invested into my 1st gen. But there's no real gain for me if I trade in for the same performance.
You're defending the car. For what? You don't have ANY concrete evidence that the new ms3 is better than the old ms3 in every way. We'll see when the tests come. You don't have to convince me or anyone else otherwise.
Don't take this the wrong way, but before you start posting info or stating something about this car, bring something to the plate to support your findings or assumptions. If you go back and look at every one of my posts, I have links and pics to support mine. What I have isn't necessarily fact (and I admit it), but it's more than what you have which is nothing more than assumptions. It's nothing personal, I'm just proving my point.
Oh BTW, the aftermarket would probably open up a lot more for the MS3 if it had an AWD drivetrain and more hp. Yes the price would go up, but I'm sure it would be cheaper than the EVO and STI. Maybe even sell better than the two. I guess we'll never know, will we?
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The major improvement (and it was a BIG one) in the current gen is the addition of the twin turbo engine.
LMFAOOOO! what the **** is that guy talkin about?? (drunk)? (smoke)?
You would understand if you bothered to actually read some of the prior posts but in this one I'm referring to the 3-series Bimmers.
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Looks like it's only 43 lbs heavier, correct me if I'm wrong:
6SpeedTA95
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yes they are either 7.5 or 8 I dont remember now.
Darksun280
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Anyone else notice the new MS3 says it has a 10 speaker system vs our 7 speaker one? I'm trying to think where they stuffed 3 more speakers. someone check the cup holders.....
6SpeedTA95
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two tweeters, two front door speakers, two rear door speakers, two hatch speakers and two small subs? :dunno:
It's both predictable and a bit funny; but this happens with every enthusiasts' car whenever there is a design change. The current owners of the previous gen car always state that the new car is slower, heavier, not as appealing, whatever - in short, that they are so happy that they have their car as is. And that it is not worth it to them to trade for the newer model. Meanwhile those who do not yet have one, praise the new gen because they are looking forward to purchase that model rather than looking back nostalgically at the prev gen. It's happened in the WRX forums, the GTI forums, and so on.
Those of you who have an '08, or '09 be happy with your ride and enjoy. If you don't want to trade for a '10 - no prob, no one is asking you to.
Just don't put down the new model just because you don't want one. That does not mean the new model is not just as good as yours for someone looking to get into a Speed3 who does not already own the prev gen car.
My current daily drive is a Speed6 and have driven the old 3, old Speed3, and '10 3. At worst, the new car will be around par with the outgoing model. Even if the mag numbers drop by a tenth of a second, there are other factors where people may prefer the newer model.
And just to be clear, I really like both the '09 and '10 Speed3s from what I have seen/read/driven so far.
Just my 0.02.
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Those of you who have an '08, or '09 be happy with your ride and enjoy. If you don't want to trade for a '10 - no prob, no one is asking you to.
Just don't put down the new model just because you don't want one. That does not mean the new model is not just as good as yours for someone looking to get into a Speed3 who does not already own the prev gen car.
My current daily drive is a Speed6 and have driven the old 3, old Speed3, and '10 3. At worst, the new car will be around par with the outgoing model. Even if the mag numbers drop by a tenth of a second, there are other factors where people may prefer the newer model.
And just to be clear, I really like both the '09 and '10 Speed3s from what I have seen/read/driven so far.
Just my 0.02.
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Darksun280
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Rear view monitor?
I noticed a key hole and another hole on the trunk my guess would be a rearview
But the argument here is whether the new is better than the old. No one know the answer for sure, but from specs posted it doesn't seem like it will be from a performance stand point. Yes the new design will take time for us all to get used to. Some have liked it from the beginning. Everyone is basically venting their opinions about the new model, that's all.
One thing I truly agree with, one member stated that whether the new design is good or bad, it sure is stirring up a lot of talk and getting the brand a lot more attention.
Well I have read this entire thread! I agree with some disagree with others but all I know is my 2010 speed3 should be in port by the second week in july and I have a contract for a fully refundable deposit! I'm in love with my 08 speed3 certinatly not getting rid of that but I'm gonna give the '10 a chance!
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