I upgraded from stock to Atp 3071 turbo because my stock turbo blew....apparently my first turbo blew because of my turbo back exhaust the mazda dealership told me, so it wasn't covered under the warranty which was complete CRAP. So then the dealership actually let me put in an aftermarket turbo, it ended up blowing my engine even though they said that it would be fine as long as i took it easy on the car, more crap....so anyone if you ever plan on upgrading a turbo on this car you must rebuild your engine first, the block cannot take the pressure and you will be looking down a big hole
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so did you buy the car used with a TBE or did you put it on yourself? And yes, a TBE will void warrenty work on a turbo.
As far as a Bigger turbo blowing your motor, well yeah, thats gonna happen if your not running proper EMS...
I doubt you'll get much support from these forum, but best of luck none the less
As far as a Bigger turbo blowing your motor, well yeah, thats gonna happen if your not running proper EMS...
I doubt you'll get much support from these forum, but best of luck none the less
SuperStretch18
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If the dealer really told you that, then they gave you really bad advice.
Big turbo + no tune (?) = Boom
I don't think that there are any cars out there that wouldn't apply to...
Big turbo + no tune (?) = Boom
I don't think that there are any cars out there that wouldn't apply to...
Sorry to hear. You must be new to boosted motors. Any time you add more boost, you need a retune. It seems after the rebuild with forged internals, you'll be on your way to a nicely modded MS6. Do some research on standbacks, standalone, or overriding EMS. Good Luck.
Protephile
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Apparently, the advice was not taken:
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123730156
Too bad about the motor, that's an expensive lesson to learn.
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123730156
Too bad about the motor, that's an expensive lesson to learn.
I bought the car new...and i know the TBE voids the warranty, but i also know that my turbo going bad was not because of the TBE and it just sucks that mazda is uneducated and just blames it on that right away. I am relatively new to all this which is why when the dealer told me it would be fine as long as the car wasn't pushed hard it would be ok and i believed the. I knew what i was getting myself into putting in the new turbo. I was aware of the mods needed, it just really sucked cuz this was my only car and when the stock turbo blew i needed my car drivable and i wasn't going to put stock back in since it was only hundreds more to put in an aftermarket when i had already planned on doing so.
Even more more funny before all this happened i also need clutch work done because for some reason out of nowhere my clutch pedal started to pulsate back at me when i would push about and inch of the way down. Mazda tells me thats like maybe a 2500 dollar repair for a new pressure plate bearrings and a new flywheel because they say they cannot resurface the old flywheel if in fact so it is bad. So i would have gotten the necessary mods for this to prevent what happened but this car just loves to suck money....i think if i still keep the car ill install a money feeding machine on it so i can give it treats every now and then
Wagonbacker9
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guys, cut him some slack.. I know where he lives... its the one place in the county you can buy beer at after 9pm... let that tell you what it needs to. OK, I'm kidding, but that is actually true.
sylinc18, you were warned what support mods you needed before upgrading the turbo... you have no one to blame for this but yourself. If you are uneducated about modding, you should heed the warnings of others who know what they're talking about, or not mod at all. If you want help rebuilding this car, I'd be happy to lend a wrench hand and get you up to speed on what you've gotten yourself into. If you sell the car, do me a favor and PM it to me so I know what I'm getting into if I run into that car on a lot some day.
sylinc18, you were warned what support mods you needed before upgrading the turbo... you have no one to blame for this but yourself. If you are uneducated about modding, you should heed the warnings of others who know what they're talking about, or not mod at all. If you want help rebuilding this car, I'd be happy to lend a wrench hand and get you up to speed on what you've gotten yourself into. If you sell the car, do me a favor and PM it to me so I know what I'm getting into if I run into that car on a lot some day.
what indications showed that your stock turbo was bad? smoke from the exhaust? if thats the case your turbo probably wasn't bad it was just some oil getting by the seals which could have been fixed by using thicker oil, which a lot of us do with upgraded downpipes and exhausts. now granted you let the dealer install your gt30 i doubt they did it right and had anything set up right for it. did you have a boost gauge? what boost levels were you running? this sounds all to fishy and as much as i hate to say it i dont feel for you as you really should do the reading before you go doing stuff like that. you can't trust a dealer, hell half of them think the recommended oil for this car is 5w20 which is why half the turbos smoke, its just to thin. build your motor is about all you can do.
it is not necessary to build the engine if you upgrade turbo, however it may be recommended. there was a guy, whoosh, he had a gt35 on his car and ran unbuilt, put down 380hp. you just have to know what you are doing.
it is not necessary to build the engine if you upgrade turbo, however it may be recommended. there was a guy, whoosh, he had a gt35 on his car and ran unbuilt, put down 380hp. you just have to know what you are doing.
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SuperStretch18
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The vibration in the clutch was probably the first indication that you had bent a rod. Others have stopped driving and disassembled at that point, only to find rod #3 shaped like this -----> )
Wagonbacker9
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Wagonbacker9
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I'm talking about here locally. Vegas... well you guys have your own rules out there... aka the lack there of.
*sigh* must be nice.
*sigh* must be nice.
Wagonbacker9
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yeah, said county, not country. understandable mistake. lol
SuperStretch18
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[Speculation]Balance shaft causing improper oiling to that cylinder?[/Speculation]
Wagonbacker9
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so balance shaft removal is recommended?
I did a ton of reading about this car before I decided to start modding it and if I'm not sure about something I just ask...if the turbo was smoking thats a known issue and it doesnt mean the turbo is bad but its always the first thing the dealership says because they want u to pay them $2k+ to install a new one once they void your warranty. If I ever decide to get a bigger turbo for this car the first thing I'm doing is installing forged internals...its a hell of a lot cheaper than buying a new motor.
But that'll never happen because this is my daily driver and I cant afford to miss work because I decided to mod it...thats why I'm buying an FD this summer
Oh and I'm with everyone else about needing a tune.
But that'll never happen because this is my daily driver and I cant afford to miss work because I decided to mod it...thats why I'm buying an FD this summer
Oh and I'm with everyone else about needing a tune.
under high boost levels which i'm sure you were running 20+ with your GT30 the balance shaft can bind up causing rod number 3 to bend. then continuing to run like this would only cause it to grow weaker until it finally gives way and blows a hole in the side of your block.
Wagonbacker9
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that almost sounds... logical!
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