Nobody I know other than folks on here.
Traded my 08 Mazdaspeed 3 in this past weekend
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Nobody I know other than folks on here.
LazerBlueP5
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"At the track" (ie turns). .90g skidpad/67mph slalom
builthatch
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nah...sometimes it's the smart thing to do. it happens everywhere.
my wife gets a car. she finances it for 5 years. she typically will drive it about two years or so, at which time it typically has about 35k. works out great as most bumper to bumpers expire s00n.
when she trades the car into our broker, her payout is usually lower than what he offers. the extra money goes into the next car as a down payment.
she's done this since about 2003 and it's worked like a charm each time. she has yet to lose a dime, in fact, it works out totally in her favor because the financed principal is lower than what everyone else pays for each car when new because she is getting 'credit' from the previous car.
the reason it works is because she gets the right cars for it to work. in her case, up to this point, it's been almost exclusively 'performance' version hondas, like, si's, save two GTI's early on, but even with those it worked out because she sold a 337 GTI for more than the broker bought it for to resell to her.
whheeeeew...ok, i'm done.
the main point is to make sure you either pay extra if possible, and try to get a car that doesn't take a huge hit from new.
an MS3 is a good car for this type of deal. you get it for 24 or so if it's a GT, and when it's time to unload it after 2 years or so, the payout SHOULD be less than what a reasonable broker will pay for it as long as you hammered down the principal by paying over your payment.
examples of cars like that are g35 and possibly the g37 (unsure), pretty much all american cars, porsche cayenne, umm, there are some others that get hammered pretty hard, hammed s0 hard that you'd either have to pay outrageous payments to overcome the hit it takes in 2 years or you'd have to put a crap load down, but then you are not giving yourself any advantage because the car is still not worth much in that short 2 year span.
holy s*** only 17K for your car? damn man, I know some interested buyer would easily have paid at least 20 for that, and it was the gt too!
Silver Ecstasy
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I guess I do have a problem with that, when it's so far been people who have absolutely NO problems with the car, and literally seem to just get "bored" or feel like the car isn't a potential trailer-queen so they get bummed out and go somewhere else. I just find it really foolish especially in a tough economy with money hard to come by and all we can think about is spend, spend, spend. People are pretty less fortunate than we are, to be driving or owning what we do now a days.. Having a fast, reliable car is pretty awesome. I love my MS3. I love all cars really, and like someone said, at $19k that's actually a STEAL!
No judgements here, i'm just saying.
I'm sure he means it because of the power-to-weight. The GTO is a heavy ass pig. But god damn it sounds good..
screw dinan! way over priced...give me a juice box upgrade anyday...guy is running high 11's with a tune race gas and drag radials.
check it out
http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2484
freakin nuts!(headbang)
GTO has the same skidpad and it's only a couple mph off the slalom. With equal tires it would be closer. This is far from "eating its lunch".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxN6gJFhYs
Celine Dion gives you her star of approval for this car. I thought this car was a cool idea from chrysler when it came out, but than when I saw what market they were trying to appeal to, I said NO THANK YOU.
Celine Dion gives you her star of approval for this car. I thought this car was a cool idea from chrysler when it came out, but than when I saw what market they were trying to appeal to, I said NO THANK YOU.
mazdaspeedster3
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Well I finally traded my Mazdaspeed 3 in this past weekend, for a 2005 Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6. The car is practically mint, w/ 12k miles and sold for 19k. Not to bad considering they sold for over 45k new a few years back. I'm sure not many on here would be fans of this car as it's 1) a Chrysler and 2) Only available in auto in the SRT trim.
It's got the German Built AMG SLK32 engine which is a supercharged 3.2L 6. 330hp/320ft/lbs of torque stock. After doing some minor research I found it can hit the low 12's consistantly with 4 mods (Pulley upgrade, intake, chip, and exhaust) which yeild it over 420hp/400ft/lbs at the rear wheels. I even saw one run a 12.1 at the local (Atco raceway) track here a few months back.
I didn't trade the Mazdaspeed3 in because I didn't like it- it was indeed a great vehicle. Coming from previous cars such as a 2005 STi my biggest complaint is the FWD configuration, and it's funky transmission (occasionally 3rd wouldn't exist- though that can be chalked up as driver error).
I've been to Mazda and back a few times- I joined way back when I got a Protege5, then was away for a while when I traded it for an STi, then like 3 cars in between before coming back to Mazda with the Speed3. I may be back someday- though I have my eye on getting a late model Z06 in the next 5 years. I've found a few with low miles in the 48-49k range (that's my ultimate semi-dream sports car considering dealers aren't selling the GTR for under 90k and Porsches are over 100k.
Anyway good luck everyone with their MS3's! Don't take any crap from those SRT-4s, and Cobalt SS's.
Btw, anyone know if my Dashhawk will work with the Crossfire SRT-6? Also I have a fresh set of 18" MS3 stock rims for sale now (I was going to put winter tires on them but never did).
No offense but this is one of the strangest and most unforeseen trades I have seen EVER! Those cars are ugly and non functional. Also, if you are looking a 12 sec car that is what you got? Just seems strange. To each his own. I just dont know how you ever ended up in an STI, MS3 and then that?
LazerBlueP5
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I've been a member since 2005 (when I got my STi). "Bubba Ho-Tep"
LazerBlueP5
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No offense taken. STi trade was a matter of finances at the time. I just bought a house and the payment on the STi was in the mid 5's and insurance was through the roof via USAA (3k a year with no blemishes on driving record).
The MS3 well that's not as easily explained. It's a great car- I love (almost) everything about it. The things that still bothered be were: transmission (3rd gear occasionally non-existent), wheel hop even after engine mount upgrade, and overall serious traction problems. I couldn't see doing upgrades to exhaust, tune, etc when I can't get traction with the (close to) stock hp/tq. Then there are people on here feverishly asking how to remove the torque limiter in 1st/2nd- lmao....what in the world are they planning to do- run pure drag slicks on the highway? If you've come from an AWD, or even a RWD car the FWD config will seem like a much less optimal base for building a powerful car. On street tires the only thing the power is good for is highway pulls. In the lower gears- anything more than moderate throttle input will cause the wheels to break traction.
Another thing that bothered me was the abysmal gains from Cobb AP. I bought this car with specific plans to do the whole Cobb thing (intake, exhaust, tune, etc)- as I really enjoyed those mods on my STi. The disappointing gains made me want to trade it that week. I believe the AP maps have gotten better but still not anywhere near the gains seen in the Subaru. That was chalked up to "the mazda's computer is more complex" or "it's tuned more to full potential from factory". Mabye one or both is true- but none the less disappointing.
Lastly I don't see any guys running in the low 12's and 11's- practically every member of the SRT forum with mods is pulling low 12's. There are even a few in the high 11's. Neither of them are using ethanol/meth or slicks This is with two mods- intake and pulleys: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCtN5yrjZ64
With a tune and exhaust he'd see high 11's.
In short the SRT-6 is a less expensive car than the Mazdapseed3 (19k w/12,000 miles, vs 24,500 w/0 miles new), cheaper to insure (believe it or not), has more power from factory, and responds MUCH better to mods. Pulleys, and intake will guarantee 12's- to me thats remarkable.
Another thing to keep in mind is unlike many of the folk here- the Mazdaspeed3 isn't my daily driver. In the 12 months I owned it I only put 4,800 miles on it. Simply put I feel the SRT-6 with 12,000 miles under 20k is the deal of the century. That's ALOT of bang for your buck. Plus it's more fun to drive- and that's coming from someone who truly enjoyed driving their MS3. There's a reason why the SRT-6 beat out the 350z, and Porsche Boxter in the Car & Driver comparo. Regardless there's no reason to be offended. Some members act as if they are personally offended by my choice to trade- that is quite irrational.
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builthatch
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omg, i forgot about the intake.
where is the intake from the ms3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
where is the intake from the ms3!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
LazerBlueP5
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The only thing I removed was the Apex mount for my Dashhawk.
Please keep your personal problems off the internet, it's foolish to think people will care.
I know the economy is tough, I personally have not felt the economy "pinch", probably because I don't work in retail or in manufacturing or loans/realty. But because of this "economy", I can buy and trade cars in and be comfortable with the prices they are at
There are kids in africa that are starving, lacking water and medical attention, send them some of your food, send them some of your water and send them your kaiser card, sharing is caring, right?
builthatch
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dude you should have called me so i could have taken all of that s*** out!
Silver Ecstasy
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Who asked for your commentary?
That's fantastic...I know the economy is tough, I personally have not felt the economy "pinch", probably because I don't work in retail or in manufacturing or loans/realty. But because of this "economy", I can buy and trade cars in and be comfortable with the prices they are at
Maybe if you took a second to read the post, you'd understand that I was basically saying that a lot of people's priorities seem to be out of wack just because their perfectly fine MS3 isn't "fast" enough or doesn't yield "potential" like other cars out there.
And ultimately, a lot of people bought the car for the wrong reason then if they expected a monster turbo car.
