"Runaway smash hit" (?)

http://subscribers.wardsauto.com/management/competitors_expected_mazda5/


WESTLAKE VILLAGE, CA The Mazda5 cross/utility vehicle, introduced in 2005 and refreshed for 08, has become a runaway smash hit for Mazda Motor Corp.s North American unit, but the auto maker has no plans to localize production of the 6-passenger family hauler.
Mazda5 sales surged 44.1% for the years first six months to 11,977 units, compared with like-2007, helped along by U.S. buyers downsizing their vehicles in the face of gasoline prices surpassing $4 a gallon.


The article goes on to mention that sales of the Rondo are up 60%.
 
So does this means those of us who got ours back in 05 was just way ahead of the pack... :)
 
I ditched my 2004 Freestar for the Mazda5... Shoulda bought the 5 first, instead of buying the used Freestar. Live and learn, I guess! :D
 
We had the 2006 and I think we joined in after that exhaust recall. I have the winter squeaks and the brake squeals that I'm hesitant to get dealer to 'fix' it. I figured all the nuts and bolts in our MZ5 was last 'torgued to spec' at the factory.. and the vehicle is working ok. 'If it works don't fix it' and 'what can happen will happen' is making me wary of taking my MZ5 to the dealer to have the 'nuisance' issues fixed. I envy the new MZ5 owners, with their new version of firmware, 5 speed ATs and LED backup lights.. And hopingly quite winter suspensions. :).
 
Ahmen to that!

I took the TSB for the hesitation and squeaking front suspension in to my dealer. He performed both fixes, and the next day the MZ5 stalled 3 times while driving down the road. Took it back, and they can't reproduce the problem...fortunate for us, it appears that MZ5 to have "healed" itself, because it hasn't hasn't happened again in the past 2 month...

Moral of the story...if it ain't broken, don't fix it...

Thought having a silent front end is nice...
 
For those who couldn't read it:

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New Competitors Expected For Mazda5
By Tom Murphy
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WESTLAKE VILLAGE, CA – The Mazda5 cross/utility vehicle, introduced in 2005 and refreshed for ’08, has become a runaway smash hit for Mazda Motor Corp.’s North American unit, but the auto maker has no plans to localize production of the 6-passenger family hauler.

Mazda5 sales surged 44.1% for the year’s first six months to 11,977 units, compared with like-2007, helped along by U.S. buyers downsizing their vehicles in the face of gasoline prices surpassing $4 a gallon.
Mazda5 first-half sales nearly topped CUV’s 2007 total deliveries.

Asked how many Mazda5s the auto maker will sell this year in the U.S., an enthusiastic Jim O’Sullivan, president and CEO of Mazda North American Operations, says, “As many as I can get” from the plant in Hiroshima, Japan.

“We’re not even advertising the car, and I have huge demand for substantially more production of (the) Mazda5, as well as (the) Mazda3, in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico,” O’Sullivan tells Ward’s here during a media preview of the all-new Mazda6 sedan.

This year promises to be a record setter for the Mazda5, as first-half sales nearly topped the model’s 2007 total of 13,718 units, according to Ward’s data. That figure represented a 20% drop from the 2006 total of 17,109 deliveries.

Despite significant volume growth, the 4-cyl. Mazda5 remains a niche vehicle bound to sell in limited numbers. Volumes would have to skyrocket for months before Mazda North America could make a business case to produce locally the Mazda5 or its platform mate, the hot-selling Mazda3 subcompact.
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“We get tons of efficiency in sourcing both vehicles out of one plant” in Japan, O’Sullivan says. He recalls several years ago, when Mazda management asked the North American team if it would like to sell the tall and spacious Mazda5.

“’You would be creating a segment on your own, because the segment doesn’t exist,’” O’Sullivan remembers management saying. “It still is one of the fastest-growing segments in Europe – it’s a space wagon. We said we think there will be an opportunity because we foresaw back then we were trending more toward the European car market in the U.S.”

O’Sullivan is proud that Mazda is pioneering a clever new sector during a difficult economic period, when Americans are craving affordable functionality.

“Here we have probably the highest fuel-economy vehicle in the U.S. that carries six people,” he says. With its 2.3L I-4, the Mazda5 is rated at 21/27 city/highway mpg (11/8.7 L/100 km). Well-equipped models are available for under $20,000.

O’Sullivan says he expects other Asian brands to join the segment soon. “I guarantee you Honda, Toyota and Nissan will be coming to this market very quickly,” he says.

In Japan, Honda has been selling a comparable 7-passenger multipurpose vehicle, the Stream, for the past two years, but no plans have been confirmed to bring it to the U.S.

Likewise, the similarly proportioned Kia Rondo is finding success in the U.S. Its sales are up 60% so far this year, according to Ward’s data.

The Mazda5 also won a 2008 Ward’s Interior of the Year award for the light-truck category.

On other product fronts, O’Sullivan says Mazda continues studying whether to bring the B-class Mazda2 subcompact to the U.S. market.

And don’t count on Mazda North America to introduce another hybrid-electric vehicle or a diesel in the immediate future, although O’Sullivan says both technologies are “definitely on our radar.” Mazda’s only North American hybrid, the Tribute CUV, is available only in California.

The auto maker has a corporate goal to boost fleet fuel economy by 20% over the next four years.

“It’s a significant improvement for a company that sells a relatively high mix of small vehicles to begin with,” he says. “It’s a matter of weight, powertrain efficiency and rolling resistance, but not sacrificing safety and what ‘zoom-zoom’ represents.”

If Mazda pursues hybrids more aggressively, O’Sullivan says the vehicles must exhibit the kind of sporty driving dynamics Mazda customers have come to expect.

“Just because everyone is going in a certain direction doesn’t necessarily mean we have to go there,” he says. “We’re not a high-volume brand, so we’re not like Toyota (Motor Corp.), selling a significant number of vehicles per year. There’s scale that goes along with that.”

Industry observers also have urged Mazda, with its partial owner Ford Motor Co., to enter the fullsize truck market by offering an M-150, a version of the best-selling Ford F-150 pickup. “But it didn’t fit the brand,” he says.

Even if Mazda eschews the truck market, O’Sullivan sees a bright future for the CX-9 large CUV, as owners of fullsize SUVs seek to downsize. “Fuel issues will remain, but people still need 7-passenger carrying capacity,” he says.

Mazda has 650 dealers in the U.S., with about half selling Mazda vehicles exclusively.

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So does this means those of us who got ours back in 05 was just way ahead of the pack... :)

Im an 06'er myself, but you can go ahead and call us innovators, leaders or wicked smaat (say that last one with a boston accent cuz it sounds better that way)
 
has anybody traded in or know of somebody who has traded in a 2006/2007 Mazda5? With Mazda5's picking up some traction in the marketplace, i wonder what this will do for resale values on used 5's.
 
With only "11,977 units sold this year"... I'd hardly call the Mazda5 a smash hit, yet....

Even though the numbers are going up, it still is very very small volume to call it a smash hit. Maybe "up and coming".
I have yet to see a Mazda5 commercial... and most people that see my car ask "what is it, a miniature minivan?".. Second comment... "never heard of it."

But there is an upside. There aren't too many on the road, so it's nice driving something no one else has.
 
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With only "11,977 units sold this year"... I'd hardly call the Mazda5 a smash hit, yet....

Even though the numbers are going up, it still is very very small volume to call it a smash hit. Maybe "up and coming".
I have yet to see a Mazda5 commercial... and most people that see my car ask "what is it, a miniature minivan?".. Second comment... "never heard of it."

But there is an upside. There aren't too many on the road, so it's nice driving something no one else has.

It depends to the perspective I guess

When I bought my 06 there were many commercials (TV and magazines) and sales were low, but when I bought my 08 there was zero advertising and they were selling many more.

If I have a product that sells by itself, the dealers cannot get enough in their hands to sell (production is on full steam in Japan and last month made it to the top 10 sales mover) then it is a smash hit to me regardless of the low volume...

Check this out. This is June I believe:

Top 10 Movers: Non-Luxury Sedans, Wagons and Hatchbacks

* 2008 Toyota Prius: 11 days
* 2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid: 17 days
* 2008 Mazda5: 23 days
* 2008 Pontiac G8: 23 days
* 2008 Chevy Malibu: 24 days
* 2008 Chevy Impala: 29 days
* 2008 Toyota Camry: 31 days
* 2008 VW Jetta: 33 days
* 2009 Hyundai Sonata: 36 days
* 2008 Toyota Avalon: 37 days

On one thing we agree, I like how unique my grocery getters are in my area :D
 
I would think Mazda would want to advertise even more now that the Mazda5 is gaining more traction in the market... no pun intended :)

But perhaps they figure it's too much of a niche vehicle and hard to really define.

Or maybe they are saving up their advertising dollars for the redesigned 2009 Mazda6.
 
the only problem our old 06 had was bad gas mileage. like, 20mpg on the freeway. our 08 seems to be better, but i have a sneaking suspicion that it's still not getting the advertised 27 mpg. oh well. it's a great car for our family.
 
the only problem our old 06 had was bad gas mileage. like, 20mpg on the freeway. our 08 seems to be better, but i have a sneaking suspicion that it's still not getting the advertised 27 mpg. oh well. it's a great car for our family.

i was getting 20mpg also for a year...but then i slowed down. now im getting between 25-27 MPG
 
I would think Mazda would want to advertise even more now that the Mazda5 is gaining more traction in the market... no pun intended :)

Well, there would be no point in advertising for potential customers to check out the 5 if there is such a low inventory of 5s! ;)

I'm sure they are waiting for inventory to ramp up before advertising.
 
Well, there would be no point in advertising for potential customers to check out the 5 if there is such a low inventory of 5s! ;)

I'm sure they are waiting for inventory to ramp up before advertising.

It's really surprising how little advertising there is for the Mazda5. Even in Los Angeles (probably the biggest car market in the country) the Mazda dealers don't even mention the Mazda5 in the ad section of the LA Times..On the weekends they have listed in the ads the Mazda3, 6, Cx-7, CX-9, Tribute, Rx-8, Mx5... but never a Mazda5.

It's like the car doesn't even exist!
 
I have found it somewhat curious that Mazda does not advertise the 5 more, but if you think of it in context, the decision makes some sense. Mazda is a relatively small manufacturer, so a certain amount of sales are needed to turn a profit on a line of cars.

The Mazda 3 has to have a relatively low profit margin, but sells in large volume. the money is in sales of things like the Miata, RX-8 and then the CX9 and CX7. The 6 is a bit more curious, as it is built in the USA with mostly "FORD" parts. This should help the profit margin.

Mazda's biggest issues is that most cars are made in Japan and the economic reality is that importing cars into the USA does not make for a good return. Because of this, a vehicle like the 5 makes a much better return as a JDM vehicle, and certainly makes better return in the EU.

I find it somewhat odd that the 5 is basically the same vehicle worldwide, other than ending/transmission choices and Right-Hand Drive. Most vehicle lines are completely different between markets (Ford Fusion/Ford Mondeo/Ford Falcon). Heck there are 2 different Ford Focus setups worldwide. Yet Mazda sells the same care everywhere (please oh please send me a Mazda 2 for the USA).

If Mazda is pumping out the same car worldwide, and only producing them at 1 factory, then there is a certain capacity for production. Once made, this production run has to be distributed to different markets. Business dictates that more units go to the higher profit markets.

To make a long story short, the real question is: Why Does Mazda Sell the 5 in the USA at all?

My suspicion is that the Limited volumes are there to replace people who would have bought the older MPV and need a little more than a 3 hatchback, but aren't wanting the CX-7. With no advertising overhead, but a strong viral campaign, Mazda can keep moving the 5 units that are allocates and have the potential to cross- and up-sell to other lines.

I love my 5, but I also love the relative exclusivity of the owner's circle.
 
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