GI: MSP Tubular Mani / Downpipe

[2.0t03speed]

yea i guess it dosent really matter in your case lol

 

[Velocifero]

Nearly teh entire fourth runner of my Thunder Mani cracked off. Huge cracks too, no hairlines. You could see light through it.

 

[neox.286]

is it just me, or does anyone know how this is supposed to be a direct replacement manifold? and where is the turbo supposed to mount to?

great craftsmanship, but still unable to understand how this is going to work

 

[kamon8404]

Nearly teh entire fourth runner of my Thunder Mani cracked off. Huge cracks too, no hairlines. You could see light through it.

Damn I feel bad for whoever ended up with mine.

 

[ForceFed]

Damn I feel bad for whoever ended up with mine.

<----Wasn't this guy (boom07)

 

[kamon8404]

<----Wasn't this guy (boom07)

I mean whoever you sold it too man. I know you turned right around and sold it again.

 

[ForceFed]

I know...It was a poorly executed joke..I suppose.

 

[neox.286]

lol, I'm glad I got rid of mine!!

 

[skylergrm]

mani

I have the ability to have a MSP direct replacement tubular Manifold and Downpipes produced.

There are of course a few prerequisites.

1) There must be interest in having it made. Not interest like, they are made and 5 of you back out. Real interest. I know stuff happens, so i expect 1 or 2 of you to back out but if a multitude of you back out cause you changed your mind, i will curse your families.

2) To protect everyones interests, deposits will need to be made. 1/2 up front 1/2 when it ships. They will not be refunded unless you find someone to fill your spot*. This may not seem fair but i wont be stuck sucking up the cost cause you decided you overspent. Of course, if something happened and they didnt get made, i would refund them.

*Each case will be reviewed on an individual basis, however when u make the initial deposit you are agreeing to the terms set forth in the official GB thread once i get AMM status. I am not a crook but I am also not rich enough to cover the cost of your manifolds. No one is forcing you to buy this. If you cant afford it, dont.

This will be a Tubular Stainless Steel, Equal Length Mani. I will be helping design, test and impliment it. So, there will be NO money exchanging hands untill i have a final, dyno proven piece. It will have gusset bracing to aid in the reduction of stress on the piece. This company im working with is the real deal, they use CAD design, they actually purge their welds, they cnc, you name it. It will be a quality piece, make no mistake.

Once the interest is there we can work on options, like wastegate ports, egr bungs, etc, etc.

Heres the plan:

Gather Interest untill minimum achieved
Get prototype designed
Install and revise prototype
Rinse, Repeat as needed
Once final piece in hand, write install documentation
Send back for replication, start GB. Apply for AMM
Collect 1/2 deposit
Replication begins
Collect 2nd 1/2 of balance
Ship to customer
Enjoy

The same will happen for the downpipes, I will offer a 3 and 2.5. That is my tentative plan, I will of course have to see where the design takes us but we will cross that road when we get there.

So, with all this said, this is a gauging interest thead. Please add your name to the list only if you are serious. I cant stress that enough. I am a very fair person, ive been here a long time, but I wont hesitate to spell it out in black and white that if you back out without good reason, you wont get a refund. I have to pay for the mani's that people back out on.

For the MODS, Since this is GI only, there will be NO money exchanging hands, for any reason. I will apply for AMM if this moves forward to where i need to setup a GB.

Right now we will be limited to these 3 items. They are the parts that seem to have a problem being made and delivered. I want to bring them to you.

As far as pricepoint goes, expect more than 600 but less than 1k for the mani. Thats what im shooting for. Once we get past the initial interest, i can work on pricing a lil more, but i have to show them, its worth making. for the DP i have to see once we get a design.

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Heres a few pics of their work, as u can see, the quality is top notch. I will let this thread go for approximately 10 days and if the interest is there, we will move forward, if its not, then it will fade away.

 

[neox.286]

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[neox.286]

is it just me, or does anyone know how this is supposed to be a direct replacement manifold? and where is the turbo supposed to mount to?

great craftsmanship, but still unable to understand how this is going to work

whoops, just read his first post a little better...didnt realize that pic wasnt the manifold for the msp haha

 

[terbow]

whoops, just read his first post a little better...didnt realize that pic wasnt the manifold for the msp haha

*cracks whip* get with it boy!

 

[terbow]

me and the shop had a long talk yesterday. I dont have alot of concrete stuff to say cause i have to get them some parts to mock up off of. Which i may have already. woo hoo.

however afew nice points.

Downpipe News
-Downpipe will be braced to the engine. This will prevent cracking
-The turbo flange to downpipe connection will be fitted to the flange opening, this means you dont have a pipe butt welded to the flange. this will help prevent cracking. and you get a really smooth transition. there wont be a step in flow.

Manifold News
-Manifold will be braced to engine, again to prevent cracking
-Manifold will take a few months to complete so you have time to save. This place cuts NO corners. you wont believe the quality when its done. with that said, im going to get a virtual mockup made and a ballpark price. then ill see what the interest is. then we will move forward. I will tell you now though, this will be unmatched in quality.

-Pressed Runners (no cracking at the flange welds)
-Bracing to engine (a MSP First)
-Stainless Steel with purged welds (nothing to impede flow inside)
-True merge collector (This we have yet to see in other manis)
-304 Stainless Steel
-Equal length (+/- 1/4", if it means easier install, we have to see)
-CAD designed for flow, this will be on an engine simulator before it even hits the bench for best flow.

You guys WONT be dissapointed. If you ever wanted a bad boy mani, this will be it. Its not going to be cheap but it will remain availible in batch orders (5 or more). I cant give a price now but i will when we get further in the modeling process. Ill try to get some pics of the shops turbo mani they made for their car.

thanks for expressing interest, im really excited im going to be able to bring this to you guys.

 

[2.0t03speed]

if only i was staying with a t2 setup =(

 

[terbow]

if only i was staying with a t2 setup =(

why arent u? what are u goin with.

 

[magnumP5]

Man, this is going to make me regret getting my MAM manifold now isn't it?

Can you explain the downpipe a little more, I'm not completely following your description.

 

[terbow]

Man, this is going to make me regret getting my MAM manifold now isn't it?

Can you explain the downpipe a little more, I'm not completely following your description.

usually with downpipes u have your flange |- and a pipe butted to it (placed against), and welded around the perimiter of the pipe. this creates a "step" in flow. you have your opening from the turbo flange, then this open pipe all of a sudden. its not a smooth transition. The way were doing it is, you form the downpipe to the same shape as the flanges opening, and stuff it in the pipe and weld it up from the inside. So now you have a smooth transition from the turbo to the downpipe.

i dont know if it will make u regret it. If people follow through and get this, they wont be dissapointed. I cant do much with the price other than not mark them up. This place wont cut corners and if you ask them to, they wont make it. I have tremendous respect for that.

 

[2.0t03speed]

thought i told you im going with the t3 setup now. Going into big boy turbo territory

 

[terbow]

terbow do you know around when you might have an approx. time line or a target date? just want to know how fast I have to start saving pennies

It will at least take a few months. As i stated several times, there wont be any corners cut so this thing will be flow tested, modeled in cad, and the fit must be up to my standards.

 

[terbow]

thought i told you im going with the t3 setup now. Going into big boy turbo territory

I dont remember you telling me, but you might have, things been hectic lately. sorry.