Just for Swampass.....(intercooler H2O Sprayer)

To clear up, after getting back to highway speed for for a couple minutes, which almost always brings intake temps back to norm. This time did not. For the first time since I had the car. In this case I would like a more convenient way to cool the ic down without stopping and icing it. I want to keep the motor safe and happy. This seems like an excellent idea for me if I can iron out the details. The ice in your reservoir lasted longer than I would have imagined! Did you use cubed or crushed? haah Good stuff Thanks

Well when payday rolls around I will be making some changes, this was more of a proof of concept thing than anything else. Every time I do a project i learn so much that I often wish i could start over, so i figured with this one i would invest a small amount and see what i learned and go from there. I learned that even though the hood/intercooler gasket is soft rubber its enough to pinch the line and will require some modding to work well. Second that the crap ass pump I bought is not enough for misters, however it would work just fine for squirters (this would bring more problems to solve however). Lastly in the vein of your question, I put a tiny bit of water in the bottom of the res, then half crushed ice and then STUFFED it with cubes, the idea being that the crushed ice would melt into ice cold water and the cubes would last and keep the water temp lower, longer. Me thinks that heat wrap of some kind is in order for the res, keep the engine heat off of it longer. Maybe some of those Hot/cold foil bags would be worth testing.

Water/meth injection and I/C waterspray are not mutually exclusive.
This would be cool, no pun intended. No reason you cant run both.
 
nah, not the same tank.. i am not wasting methonal on top of my inter cooler and hot engine.. asking for engine fire..

Water/meth injection and I/C waterspray are not mutually exclusive.

In fact, if you do water injection, you could share the water tank between the two systems.
 
Well when payday rolls around I will be making some changes, this was more of a proof of concept thing than anything else. Every time I do a project i learn so much that I often wish i could start over, so i figured with this one i would invest a small amount and see what i learned and go from there. I learned that even though the hood/intercooler gasket is soft rubber its enough to pinch the line and will require some modding to work well. Second that the crap ass pump I bought is not enough for misters, however it would work just fine for squirters (this would bring more problems to solve however). Lastly in the vein of your question, I put a tiny bit of water in the bottom of the res, then half crushed ice and then STUFFED it with cubes, the idea being that the crushed ice would melt into ice cold water and the cubes would last and keep the water temp lower, longer. Me thinks that heat wrap of some kind is in order for the res, keep the engine heat off of it longer. Maybe some of those Hot/cold foil bags would be worth testing.


This would be cool, no pun intended. No reason you cant run both.
If you really want to run ice water, do what the race guys use for cool suits: use a small lunch size cooler.

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Even a large thermos would work. Mount it in the trunk or better yet inside the cabin of the car behind a seat or something to maximize how long the temp of water stays cold.

On the other hand, keep in mind the goal of I/C waterspray. The goal isn't to try to use cold water to directly cool down the intercooler, the goal is to use water to cool down the air that's flowing through the intercooler. In that regard, the most important part of the whole setup is ensuring the sprayers you're using are properly sized and the pump has enough pressure to atomize the water you're spraying.

If your sprayers are atomizing the water properly, there is so much surface area to the water that it evaporates almost immediately. It's the phase change of the water from liquid to gas that cools down the air, and the amount of heat extracted from the air is far more than the heat extracted from heating the water from 32F to ambient.

Bottom line is, unless you're attempting to pre-cool the I/C with tons of ice water so the I/C is as cold as possible (like right before a drag pull), the water temp is way less important than the quality of your sprayers/pump to ensure you've got an ultra-fine mist.

When I build my I/C sprayer, I used a 90psi water pump and some industrial sprayer atomization nozzles, plus a massive water tank in the trunk (6 gallons), all controlled with that I/C spray computer I posted about earlier. I had a 3 way switch that gave me off/auto/manual spray modes.

I just tossed a video from '03 up on YouTube of me playing with the sprayer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Ndk92iZW8

As you can kinda see, it dumps a crapload of water over the intercooler... way over-kill, especially since tech at autocross wouldn't let me run with the tank in the car since it was just strapped down w/ bungees and not bolted in. So, it was pretty much useless. On the other hand, one time the hoses popped loose under the hood, and my sprayer turned into a squirt gun out the hood scoop that shot about 30ft in front of the car, and that was useful at pedestrian crosswalks. :lol:
 
nah, not the same tank.. i am not wasting methonal on top of my inter cooler and hot engine.. asking for engine fire..

That's why I said "if you do water injection, you could share the water tank between the two systems".

Spraying fuel all over a hot engine is pretty counterproductive to the goal of cooling things off.
 
Demi, i was thinking about this project a little and it seems besides pressure, the nozzle or nozzles design would be key. As your project develops let us know how you fair. I thought maybe this was humor way back. But this is a very real and present project! and sperry any thought on the best way to atomize. I think a forty foot spray from 1/8" tube might be enough pressure!
 
Demi, i was thinking about this project a little and it seems besides pressure, the nozzle or nozzles design would be key. As your project develops let us know how you fair. I thought maybe this was humor way back. But this is a very real and present project! and sperry any thought on the best way to atomize. I think a forty foot spray from 1/8" tube might be enough pressure!
Atomization is pretty much all about picking the right nozzle for the line pressure you're planning on running.

I think this article was already linked to, but it's got some good info for an overkill DIY setup: http://autospeed.com/A_2720/cms/article.html
 
Demi, i was thinking about this project a little and it seems besides pressure, the nozzle or nozzles design would be key. As your project develops let us know how you fair. I thought maybe this was humor way back. But this is a very real and present project! and sperry any thought on the best way to atomize. I think a forty foot spray from 1/8" tube might be enough pressure!

All my real projects are humorous. Its because i do most of my drinking in the garage. Never should have put the lawnchairs in there. Yep like i said, more to get my feet wet and see what sort of problems need to be overcome. Ive found a local company that specializes in mister systems thats will be lending me a hand. The lines i have are too small, the pump is too weak, and the nozzles are a bit on the small side, though i would rather use more smaller nozzles than end up with dripping and such. The idea is to hit all of the intercooler and the air coming past it, with a quantity of water that can be evaporated off within 30 seconds or so. Also this time around i will be doing a good install, with drilling and fitment and all that. Stay tuned.
 
you wont have to worry about water on/in the head spark track. i ran a vented c/f hood on my last car that was right over the track and nothing happened through 4 years of running it that way. rain, snow, sleet or ice nothing ever happened.
 
The garage

All my real projects are humorous. Its because i do most of my drinking in the garage. Never should have put the lawnchairs in there. Yep like i said, more to get my feet wet and see what sort of problems need to be overcome. Ive found a local company that specializes in mister systems thats will be lending me a hand. The lines i have are too small, the pump is too weak, and the nozzles are a bit on the small side, though i would rather use more smaller nozzles than end up with dripping and such. The idea is to hit all of the intercooler and the air coming past it, with a quantity of water that can be evaporated off within 30 seconds or so. Also this time around i will be doing a good install, with drilling and fitment and all that. Stay tuned.
The lawn chairs. I like the way you work sir. And as far as staying tuned, I am adjusting rabbit ears as we speak
 
Oh yeah
UPDATE: Tried some different nozzles that look really really nice on there. Its just two nozzles stickin up about a 1/4inch on the left and right side. These are the kind you set in the ground to spray individual plants. They shoot big gobs of water, but through some temp test have been found to be less effective. Post pictures later. Third times the charm right?
 
you need to rig your W/S washer bottle to squirt armor all on your front tires for a smoking 3rd gear roll on show when you are on the highway. When someone asks you what you have under the hood, make s*** up.
 
^You so crazy!

I have an air conditioned bay at work to play with my car. I will build a garage one day... like I don't play with her enough already.

Can't beat DIY!
 

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