Project Pay2Play: My Eunos Cosmo has arrived!

[FunkRider]

Another excellent post I've missed untill now. Just spent some time reading through all the posts. What a wonderful car you have.

At my shop we had a Cosmo halfcut (same silver colour) and I had fallen in love with the car as we stripped the half cut down for its 20B. The car is much nicer when it also includes things aft the dashboard.

 

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I think it all depends on placement and quality of installation.

 

[projectmx]

wasn't that sign a stock option?

 

[Antoine]

I'm right there with ya bro. In fact I would have considered a Cosmo myself if they were available here.

(thumb)

Awesome Antoine. I like the customizations you've done so far. A+

Thanks!

Those backlit Cosmo signs look freaky on the car at night. Strangley though I have never seen them on both sides of the car. Its a Japanese thing I think like the ****** badge on the left side only.

Good luck finding them, They have been NLA for 10 years.

Having said that. I think I have one floating around. If you can find one, I may be able to provide the other.

Thanks for the offer...I realized that these "luminous" Cosmo signs are going to be a tough find but my Mazda Dealer friend is on the look out for them...We'll see if he manages to locate any...

I've only seen a couple pics on the net of the signs in action and it looks funky but interesting...possibly cool...Not sure yet if I would put them on or not...My main concern now is if a set can be located...Note to self...Check yahoo auctions Japan!

On another note, If you exceed 1-Bar of boost. You will kill the turbo's & the engine wont enjoy the shattered turbo blades going through it.

Having said that BNR turbo's in the USA will hi-flow the factory turbo's to tolerate up to 1.2-Bar. Then the engine will be able to provide a healthy 400KW without turbo destruction.

REgards

I've heard about these high-flow turbos and I was actually thinking about something similar down the road...I want to keep the original setup but upgrade individual parts & systems...I think upgrading the stock turbos would be a good way to go about that...Trying to keep with the "balanced" approach to modding...

Another excellent post I've missed untill now. Just spent some time reading through all the posts. What a wonderful car you have.

At my shop we had a Cosmo halfcut (same silver colour) and I had fallen in love with the car as we stripped the half cut down for its 20B. The car is much nicer when it also includes things aft the dashboard.

Welcome and Thanks! (2thumbs)

Man...I shed a tear eveytime I hear about a Cosmo being mutilated for its 20B...I couldn't bear to see a Cosmo cut in half SHEESH!

wasn't that sign a stock option?

Yes! I believe it was a stock option...because it's part of the "aero kit" that was optional from the Dealer/Mazda...which I have on my Cosmo...I have the same sign but the non-luminous version which is nice but I'd like to either go with the luminous sign or go with a custom sign.

I feel inspired though...I've got an idea for a custom sign...more on this idea later!

Here is a pic of the factory option one and a custom led version (I think it's made using leds which seem to be the craze now in Japan). This is from some Japanese site...

I think the one in the background is factory while the one in the front is led/custom...notice how much more intense it is...Definitely funky but a very interesting feature...Not sure if I totally dig it yet but I like it because it's different...kind of a unique touch for a unique car.

 

[projectmx]

oh man that pic is tasty... just wish it was a little high quality.. you'll have to make another copy of it when you have yours installed

 

[aMaff]

Another excellent post I've missed untill now. Just spent some time reading through all the posts. What a wonderful car you have.

At my shop we had a Cosmo halfcut (same silver colour) and I had fallen in love with the car as we stripped the half cut down for its 20B. The car is much nicer when it also includes things aft the dashboard.

http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/board/viewtopic.php?id=35009
http://kyrotary.com/duck/******.jpg

(sad2)

 

[Antoine]

That's horrible! (notcool)

Those will be the first and last set of such pics in this thread...Man...what a heart wrencher!

 

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is that a salvage job? wrecked cosmo or something?

 

[aMaff]

Those will be the first and last set of such pics in this thread...Man...what a heart wrencher!

I know right? I just thought it was crazy that this was brought up at about the same time as I was reading about this exact thing on the GRM forum. Figured it was a sign so I should go ahead and post it

is that a salvage job? wrecked cosmo or something?

I have no idea. It was posted yesterday on the Grassroots Motorsports' for sale area. Apparently the long block sold so fast it wasn't even funny. Not really surprised though haha

 

[FunkRider]

Its called a halfcut. Its like getting a JDM engine only you get everything including the harnesses and computers etc. Sometimes its needed when you are swaping a totally different engine into a car.

Its not like they are cutting up pristine cars for halfcuts, they are usually wrecks that cannot be repaired.

I saved the cosmo's steering wheel and the strut tower caps. Just too cool to throw away.

I seem to have taken this thread slightly offtopic here... Sorry Antoine.

 

[DMRH]

Plenty of half cuts in Oz. Breaks my heart.

This one here is obviously a rare "series-II" version that should have the D-series engines.

I deliberately convince people against 3-rotor conversions to slow the destruction of these beauties.

Such a shame.

Anyway, on another matter. View the ******.com site but a word of caution. Steer clear of the guy. He is a well known crook & will scam you if you are dumb enough to get involved. Con men a very good talkers so dont get swept up in his persuasive manner.

REgards

 

[LordWorm]

Holy SH*T!

That's horrible! (notcool)

Those will be the first and last set of such pics in this thread...Man...what a heart wrencher!

engine is probably going to find its way into something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuogJFciy4 that white RX3 (which for the record is one of the most beautifully turned out tire size limited sport compact drag cars in australia...).... so its not all that bad .... it'll be resurrected into something greater then a cosmo

 

[aMaff]

8.25. Impressive.

 

[Antoine]

Plenty of half cuts in Oz. Breaks my heart.

This one here is obviously a rare "series-II" version that should have the D-series engines.

I deliberately convince people against 3-rotor conversions to slow the destruction of these beauties.

Such a shame.

I hear ya and I feel the same way...The Eunos Cosmo/20B is an endangered and under appreciated species.

I hope that this thread inspires people to get their own Eunos Cosmo...If you can find one!

engine is probably going to find its way into something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGuogJFciy4 that white RX3 (which for the record is one of the most beautifully turned out tire size limited sport compact drag cars in australia...).... so its not all that bad .... it'll be resurrected into something greater then a cosmo

Imo...Nothing with a 20B swap is greater than the car it originally came in...Most engines are used in multiple models but the 20B only came in one model and it should always remain there...of course I'm a bit biased in this case..

...and now BACK to your regular scheduled programing

 

[LordWorm]

Imo...Nothing with a 20B swap is greater than the car it originally came in...Most engines are used in multiple models but the 20B only came in one model and it should always remain there...of course I'm a bit biased in this case..

...and now BACK to your regular scheduled programing

Yes but cosmo owners generally refuse to unleash the fury

the 20B is capable of inexcess of 1200hp....(hell, theres 13B's in PR that are kicking out close to 1000hp).... the triple rotor deserves to be unleashed...and the crazy race guys are the ones to do it

if it makes you feel better, that front cut was probably in an acco.... at least the motor wont go to waste!


aMaff - wayne's car is impressive - 20B power ...more impressive is a 12A that runs high 7's, a 13b that runs flat 8's, and a collection of 20b's that run deep into the sevens/high 6 second mark....

what makes wayne's car impressive (and the 7sec 12A and the 7 sec 13B for that matter) is that the class they run is is tyre size limited to 28x9's, and they have to maintain a full chassis and full body apperence... so that's 8.25 seconds on narrow as hell, short as hell slicks.... The super fast guys are not tyre size limited so they can hook up more power out of the hole.

289 is the class i want to roll in one day... piston powered of course.... just trying to source a suitable chassis (something like an isuzu gemini, or an old school toyota)....and trying to get the cash together in amongst other projects....

 

[Antoine]

I don't blame ya for lusting after 1200hp+ 20Bs but in my case...I'm trying to turn my 20B powered Cosmo into the ultimate street car...A "Mazda" man's version of a Porsche 911, Z06, GT-R or even one of those crazy Benz coupes with more power than you can shake a stick at! (laugh)

I'm looking forward to my next meeting on the Monday the 21st to discuss the custom glove-box setup & a few other potential mods...

I've been seeking some big-ticket mods for the long term and I'm thinking...

BBK...Even with slightly upgraded power levels...I feel the Cosmo needs some serious braking power...I came across this sweet sweet setup:

Not super large...I believe these badboys fit within an 18" rim and the monoblock construction is lighter while allowing for 6 pistons of total stopping power!

On a related note...I've been thinking about upgrading rims and or suspension in the long term and I was pleasantly surprised to find out that Autoexe still offers an adjustable coil-over kit for the JC Cosmo!

I believe I currently have Autoexe sport springs and the stock shocks...The ride is actually well balanced between comfort and handling at this point...although I would like to be able to adjust ride height!

コスモ（ＪＣ）用

On the topic of suspension...I will at some point get a front strut bar...I'm looking at one from Carbing:

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On top of all that...I initially thought that a grounding kit would be a waste of money but my Mazda Dealer friend tells me that on older cars...like the Cosmo...It could actually help strengthen the electrical system...

And at some point HIDz...


All in due time...I'm looking forward to completing "Stage 2" with those Defi goodies...I would like to know if I'm achieving decent boost levels once the boost gauge is installed...(thumb)

 

[LordWorm]

I don't blame ya for lusting after 1200hp+ 20Bs

just tell the truth dude, you lust over them too its an absolute testament to mazda that these motors can make that kind of power...I was speaking with one of the best rotary engine builders in the country a while back who informed me (much to my surprise!) that there are no such thing as ready to buy, off the shelf"competition" rotors (that is, low compression rotors, or rotors made from exotic metals, like their piston counterparts) - so all these massive high power rotary engines (including QSR's 1600hp 26B) are running "stock" mazda turbo rotors with little more than upgraded dowels, upgraded eccentric shaft and upgraded apex seals. I defy anyone to find a piston engine that will operate that far outside of spec'd power on stock pistons


get your ass to oz... .i'm sure between twilight and myself we can put you up at one of our places.... just make sure its right around jamboree time....you'll go back to japan, with 2 things on your mind....methanol, and peripheral porting

 

[DMRH]

Awesome brakes for the "To-do" list.

The Cosmo was a real let down in that department. Its as if they got to the end of the program & tried to cut costs. "Lets toss the RX-7 brakes & use the cheaper Luce brakes instead"

Have tried out a few Cosmo's with better brakes & the difference is remarkable. Just proves again they are a serious de-tuned supercar. Dont bother withthe 700KW engine program, be happy with 300KW as it remains very stock todrive at that level & still kicks arse.

The grounding kit is a great idea too. I noticed the improvement on mine after installing it. easier starting, cleaner idle. More responsive too. Strange but it was one of those freaky mods that does far more than you expected......

On another note.............

Have been trying to locate the CARBING air flow cover that goes in front of the radiator near the support panel. Keen to buy 5 or more but its proving too hard to dealwith the language barrier.

Any pointers........??

REgards

 

[Herblenny]

Awesome!! Can't wait to see more of it!

By the way, the ebay JC is bought by one of the guy here in Alabama..

he brought the car to DGRR 2008..

for pics: http://www.rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=1707

 

[Reitrof]

Antoine,

Keep it coming. I put some coilovers on my Miata and love them. Being able to adjust the height and dampening is great.