Why cant our community be like this?!?!

[chacon101]

I don't know anything about Darksun's situation with his intake so does anyone know if it was a MS CAI? If not, doesn't it state on the warranty that if you mod the car at all, it will be voided?

I am not defended this lawyer driven statement in the warranty but there are a lot of idiots out there. Idiots who do mod the hell out of the car and then act like they have babied the vehicle and look all doe eyed when the motor blows. These "pioneers" are the ones who cause overall problems like this and the dealerships clamp down.

It's the same for insurance fraud which causes rates to go up.

Thank goodness for that law which states that they have to prove that the mod caused the problem because that HELPS protect...but isn't a fail safe. How much time do you have to be screwing around at a dealership when your car is not running and you need to get to work?

Jay, what you mentioned about a list of bad dealerships is a good idea but I think we need a list of good dealerships as well to be fair. Could that even be a sticky or would it just be too subjective? Oh, and since we're all self centered ass-munches, people would just screw up the list anyways, right?

* a small story from when i was at a dealership recently. One thing is that they put the wrong type of oil in (I wanted FULL synth, not a blend) and the other is a guy who bought his son an rx-8. The car was fully modded with an exhaust, intake, all kinds of other fun little bits and the motor blew. The service guys were laughing about it because they checked the oil and it was total syrup. The car only had about 15k on it and the dumbass kid never changed the oil even once. The father was trying to be all loud and raise hell and from what I understand, was going to try to sue. What an ass. Oh, and the tires were totally bald too.

 

[jbiird317]

im telling you, going to mazda NA with a "fire list" of car owners who mod their cars and want to keep the warranty is not going to do anything positive. Then in the same breath you want to call out a bunch of dealerships who are denying this service, or in other words, upholding the warranty agreement that mazda wrote. youre not gonna win too many points there either.

I feel for you guys getting denied work, i really do. But this crusade will only bring down more people into your situation, not raise mazda's tolerance level.

 

[Darksun280]

Darksun only had an intake.

Intakes break faulty motor mounts be forewarned..........

 

[jaydubz]

im telling you, going to mazda NA with a "fire list" of car owners who mod their cars and want to keep the warranty is not going to do anything positive. Then in the same breath you want to call out a bunch of dealerships who are denying this service, or in other words, upholding the warranty agreement that mazda wrote. youre not gonna win too many points there either.

I feel for you guys getting denied work, i really do. But this crusade will only bring down more people into your situation, not raise mazda's tolerance level.

You are the saddest bunch I have ever corresponded with! Something blatantly wrong takes place and simply because it did not happen directly to you, you turn the other cheek instead of trying for what is right and fair!

This community is ridiculous i certainly hope none of you face any of the same issues that Darksun has. Heaven forbid you install a boost gauge, and your mount shatters as well, would it not be funny to have your warranty voided?!? Spineless Sheep!

If you truly feel for the others that have been wronged then come up with some helpful advice instead of worrying what Mazda may and may not do. Mazda is a business like any other, dealerships included when this information is brought to light and other consumers think twice about going to this particular dealership then maybe policy and tolerance may change.

 

[MS3077]

I agree but don't know what we could do about it.

 

[Darksun280]

If your not helping then your adding to the problem. Direct your comments else where.



It has to start some place and this dealership seems to the perfect platform especially after what they pulled on Darksun. Would you not agree?

***Also please dont misquote me, I am not trying to take on Mazda NA, rather I am trying to bring to light the shoddy work and unfair practices along with the total disregard that these dealerships have for the Magnuson Moss Act.

jaydubz man its ok you don't have to get into a fight with these guys for me. Other people will get burned judging by how mazda went so hard ant voiding me and that other guy by even trying to find internet posts on me i wouldn't be surprised if others get burned as well
honestly they probably have a case record on any number of people on her and whats even better i think this site sold me down river to them cause even though I have no location or anything to identify me in my profiles or posts mazda found my broken mount pictures and labeled them to me quiet quickly with out a licenses plate or any real identifying connections.....

 

[Darksun280]

You must have a difficult time following what I have previously posted, let me simplify it for you in order for easy consumption! Let me break it down this way! Follow closely Maestro.

1. Motor mount comply completely breaks in a sports car (or car sold as a sportier performance vehicle)

2. numerous cases of this have occurred and even made national headlines due to the severity of the poor workmanship.

3. Darksun, along with others have experienced this truly outrageous mishap

4 . Darksun goes to dealership who sees the scope of work, but also sees the intake he installed and decides to blame the engine dropping out of the car completely on that part which subsequently voids his warranty all together.

Now here is the million dollar question! Should Darksun have to pay for these damages? Would a simple intake allow the engine enough torque to shear itself cleanly off of a mount?

Heres another idea, poor quality part from Mazda along with possibly a mild mannered person (no offense Darksun) and this dealership wants to Void the entire warranty. Does this sound right to you?

There is opinion and then there is fact and manufacturers/dealership responsibility. Welcome to that real world Maestro!

Heres the real kicker the engine falling did more damage then the mount breaking. The mount and rubber in side it is 156 total i have 2 grand in other damages on top of it all caused by the engine drop from a poped out axle to a cracked tranny. no wonder mazda voided me so quick they dont want to own up to that kinda damage................

 

[Darksun280]

bewared when the motor falls on the axle it pops it out the case but chips the case and sends a crack north of where it exits from. its like they designed this car to shatter once one thing goes wrong....

 

[jaydubz]

jaydubz man its ok you don't have to get into a fight with these guys for me. Other people will get burned judign by how mazda went so hard ant viding me and that other guy by even trying to find internet posts on me i wouldn't be surprised if others get burned as well
honestly they probably have a case record on any number of people on her and whats even better i think this site sold me down river to them cause even though I have no location or anything to identify me in my profiles or posts mazda found my broken mount pictures and labeled them to me quiet quickly with out a licenses plate or any real identifying connections.....

Thanks Darksun, no offense but the situation is alot bigger than just yourself. Your situation unfortunately just happens to be one of the worst. Matter of fact I would deny the pics, because none of that is admissible in court considering that this is a public forum. They have absolutely no basis for not covering your work considering that the mounts are a known failure point!

Is there another dealership in your area that you can have the vehicle towed to?

I agree but don't know what we could do about it.

Coming together to help a fellow Speed3 owner like ourselves is a good start. So far there are alot of opinions and no actions.

 

[MS3077]

Thanks Darksun, no offense but the situation is alot bigger than just yourself. Your situation unfortunately just happens to be one of the worst. Matter of fact I would deny the pics, because none of that is admissible in court considering that this is a public forum. They have absolutely no basis for not covering your work considering that the mounts are a known failure point!

Is there another dealership in your area that you can have the vehicle towed to?



Coming together to help a fellow Speed3 owner like ourselves is a good start. So far there are alot of opinions and no actions.

I guess we could form some sort of petition or something?

 

[jaydubz]

I guess we could form some sort of petition or something?

Not even, we just need to start emailing good automotive sites like Autoblog.com.

http://www.autoblog.com/contact/comments/

it is as simple as that! Lets bring some attention to it, feel free to include a link to darksun's original post.

 

[Darksun280]

Good luck but honestly im so tired I dont even know if i have the energy to fight. Mazda doesn't even want give me an official letter on why there voiding me. They've been stalling for just about two weeks

 

[funkyman]

Its entirely the dealerships fault because the seller is supposed to protect it self by either putting a reserve price or schill bidding,either option will help sell the car close to asking price.They led to their own demise by not doing any research,bloody amatuers.

 

[jaydubz]

Its entirely the dealerships fault because the seller is supposed to protect it self by either putting a reserve price or schill bidding,either option will help sell the car close to asking price.They led to their own demise by not doing any research,bloody amatuers.

If you are quoting the autoblog.com article about the BMW dealership then thats fine, however I used it as an example of a community coming together and offering support and help to a fellow member, by now you are probably familiar with Darksun's situation.

I along with alot of other members feel that his situation is entirely unfair. A known failure took place and this dealership is claiming that an intake made the engine torque so much that it ripped itself from the engine mounts. Not sure if you are an engineer but when is the last time you heard of an intake producing that much HP? Sounds like it might be passing the buck to me!

 

[crashkelly]

I don't know anything about Darksun's situation with his intake so does anyone know if it was a MS CAI? If not, doesn't it state on the warranty that if you mod the car at all, it will be voided?

I am not defended this lawyer driven statement in the warranty but there are a lot of idiots out there. Idiots who do mod the hell out of the car and then act like they have babied the vehicle and look all doe eyed when the motor blows. These "pioneers" are the ones who cause overall problems like this and the dealerships clamp down.

It's the same for insurance fraud which causes rates to go up.

Thank goodness for that law which states that they have to prove that the mod caused the problem because that HELPS protect...but isn't a fail safe. How much time do you have to be screwing around at a dealership when your car is not running and you need to get to work?

Jay, what you mentioned about a list of bad dealerships is a good idea but I think we need a list of good dealerships as well to be fair. Could that even be a sticky or would it just be too subjective? Oh, and since we're all self centered ass-munches, people would just screw up the list anyways, right?

* a small story from when i was at a dealership recently. One thing is that they put the wrong type of oil in (I wanted FULL synth, not a blend) and the other is a guy who bought his son an rx-8. The car was fully modded with an exhaust, intake, all kinds of other fun little bits and the motor blew. The service guys were laughing about it because they checked the oil and it was total syrup. The car only had about 15k on it and the dumbass kid never changed the oil even once. The father was trying to be all loud and raise hell and from what I understand, was going to try to sue. What an ass. Oh, and the tires were totally bald too.

+1,000,000

 

[crashkelly]

*jerk edit*


And to the guy who had the warranty problem for the intake...If this wasnt related to something that was issued in a RECALL I would totally say that's tough s*** and you knew that was a possiblity...but I think they should fix your s*** because that is a well know and documented problem to the point where they issued a recall.

 

[jaydubz]

sooo what's it like being attached to Jaydubz balls by your lips?Everytime the guy posts in any thread you are halfway up his ass with "I AGREE JAYDUBZ!"I convinced you guys are the same person or something...every thread he posts in you are on his nuts...


And to the guy who had the warranty problem for the intake...If this wasnt related to something that was issued in a RECALL I would totally say that's tough s*** and you knew that was a possiblity...but I think they should fix your s*** because that is a well know and documented problem to the point where they issued a recall.

LOL, whats wrong crash were you not satisfied with me making you look stupid on the other post that you figured you would try you luck on this thread? But I digress, this is not the way that I want to handle this issue. My whole reason for this rant was to try and bring attention to darksun's situation. All I am exhaustingly trying to say is this dealership is wrong, dead wrong and Darksun should not have to pick up the bill for a known fault. Lets put our differences aside and try to help Darksun, his situation is the reason we are all currently looking at this post.

 

[Darksun280]

sooo what's it like being attached to Jaydubz balls by your lips?Everytime the guy posts in any thread you are halfway up his ass with "I AGREE JAYDUBZ!"I convinced you guys are the same person or something...every thread he posts in you are on his nuts...


And to the guy who had the warranty problem for the intake...If this wasnt related to something that was issued in a RECALL I would totally say that's tough s*** and you knew that was a possiblity...but I think they should fix your s*** because that is a well know and documented problem to the point where they issued a recall.

I win in the end. I'm not gonna say why since mazda USA lurks all over this ******* board and I swear the owners know it and probably have a deal with Mazda USA selling us all down river one by one. But trust me I'll be fine.

 

[jbiird317]

LOL, whats wrong crash were you not satisfied with me making you look stupid on the other post that you figured you would try you luck on this thread? But I digress, this is not the way that I want to handle this issue. My whole reason for this rant was to try and bring attention to darksun's situation. All I am exhaustingly trying to say is this dealership is wrong, dead wrong and Darksun should not have to pick up the bill for a known fault. Lets put our differences aside and try to help Darksun, his situation is the reason we are all currently looking at this post.

and posting on autoblog is gonna solve these problems? We are a VERRRRY small portion of mazda's total business, im sure they are not losing any sleep over it... I would love to help out darksun and think he got ripped off, but im not willing to put other enthusiasts at a greater risk to benefit one person, no offense

 

[MS3077]

And to the guy who had the warranty problem for the intake...If this wasnt related to something that was issued in a RECALL I would totally say that's tough s*** and you knew that was a possiblity...but I think they should fix your s*** because that is a well know and documented problem to the point where they issued a recall.

You are totally out of control with your comments. If I happen to agree with someone I simply put a +1, has nothing to do with being on someone’s nuts, etc. I’m actually offended by your stupidity.

I said nothing to you for you to insult me. I'm I the only person who thinks this ass-jack is out of line???

Where is a Moderator when you need them? I don't believe this guy should be allowed on here insulting people.