SPEED3TYPE2
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cool that hood is speed3ee
2009 FPV F6 310 Road Test Review
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blacksrt47
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I didnt read the entire thread, but why don't Ford and Pontiac bring these Australian cars to the U.S.? I mean I dont think it would completely cut into sales of say a Mustang, b/c they still seem like different cars. It seems like these could really help out the American car makers and we could get some more respect for our cars.
Short answer: Fuel economy.
blacksrt47
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So you mean b/c the Aussie cars don't get good fuel economy? I'm sure the companies could easily put some work into that and fix it if they would just not be lazy. Sometimes I think the American car companies just aren't with it and just playing some sick games. A little off topic, but Dodge with the Caliber. It's like they saw the tuner market was in to hatchbacks and sport wagons, but instead of making something like that, they mess up and made the mini suv caliber. Right idea, but bad execution.
So why would fuel economy not matter in Australia?
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That hood line is pure sex, and I actually like how the lower grille has the FPV emblem silhouette in it. It would be nice to see Ford bring these over, especially in the case of Pontiac and the G8. If it takes off, that might be Ford's cue to get these on the boat ASAP.
It matters, but they didn't just pass a regulation that Australian manufacturers had to have their fleet average fuel economy at 35 mpg by 2020, as they just did in the US.
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I still honestly think they could come up with a better way to get good mpg. I think the problem is that no manufacture will put to much money into the research if they don't have to. If the government offered big incentives to car companies than I'm sure they could make those cars better.
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^^ I have a better theory. When the majority of the people who live on X Country have to choose between spending money on food versus spending money on gas, then the government will do something about it.
At this point the population obviously complains, but the government of these Countries plays dumb because they know it is consumed at the price set, it is available and is not translating into hunger (dunno)
But to keep on topic, the GT and the F6 look great, the Super Pursuit is a little bit to much IMO. They need them to fight Holden
At this point the population obviously complains, but the government of these Countries plays dumb because they know it is consumed at the price set, it is available and is not translating into hunger (dunno)
But to keep on topic, the GT and the F6 look great, the Super Pursuit is a little bit to much IMO. They need them to fight Holden
God I love those cars. I had no idea those were being built. Super Pursuit, hell yeah, I need one!!!!
I agree those hood lines are very sexy and very similar to the MS6 hoodline that all the car review "experts" bitched about. Hmmm................
Thanks for posting these up guys!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree those hood lines are very sexy and very similar to the MS6 hoodline that all the car review "experts" bitched about. Hmmm................
Thanks for posting these up guys!!!!!!!!!!!
^^ I have a better theory. When the majority of the people who live on X Country have to choose between spending money on food versus spending money on gas, then the government will do something about it.
At this point the population obviously complains, but the government of these Countries plays dumb because they know it is consumed at the price set, it is available and is not translating into hunger (dunno)
But to keep on topic, the GT and the F6 look great, the Super Pursuit is a little bit to much IMO. They need them to fight Holden
The US government is keeping our spending habits out of the loop at this point and have already mandated what we're going to drive. Nothing at this point is going to be market-driven. They're not going to offer incentives, they're already threatening penalties, so we know what we're going to be driving.
I just looked at this thread for the first time and couldn't believe my eyes. I've been a Ford buyer since I was a kid. My first car was a Ford. In recent years, the only car they've produced that has caught my eye has been the Mustang. Yep, my wife and I have owned three of them, over the years. The styling in the Falcon is something Ford U.S. has been missing for a long time. I wouldn't even consider Ford's current lineup because I have to be able to look at our cars with pride. I could never be proud to own a Ford 500 or Fusion. Ugly!
As for gas mileage, it can be done. If we can have V8s getting fuel mileage in the upper 20s range, I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to have them here. Our '96 Mustang GT got 28mpg on the road. Our '02 GTvert gets 26mpg. A little tweaking, here and there, can get the gas mileage needed, for now.
As for gas mileage, it can be done. If we can have V8s getting fuel mileage in the upper 20s range, I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to have them here. Our '96 Mustang GT got 28mpg on the road. Our '02 GTvert gets 26mpg. A little tweaking, here and there, can get the gas mileage needed, for now.
LAUNCH PAD: Falcon turns it on
Our behind-the-wheel verdict is in, and the news is that Ford's FG Falcon is good on the road. Surprisingly good.
After driving a solid cross section of the FG range through rural Victoria today, were prepared to say that the new Falcon exceeds expectations. And the 450km drive was on roads ranging from twisting blacktop, to loose, gravely dirt and even a burst of freeway driving.
Weve so far driven the base model XT, entry-level G Series G6, XR6 Turbo, and XR8 in both standard and option pack form. Theyve all been autos: the XT and G6 getting the new five-speeder; the others with the newly-calibrated version of the impressive six-speed ZF.
Manuals are in short supply in the press car line-up, but well land one, together with the XR6, G6E and G6E Turbo we havent yet driven, in todays last leg. Were especially keen to try the manual in the XR8, as Fords engineers say theyve dropped the cars axle ratio to deliver more immediacy through the gears. And it has a new launch control function...
But what we can tell you after driving over plenty of challenging roads is that Fords work on the car has proved measurably good. The new, lighter aluminium front suspension, Bishop-based variable rack steering, monotube dampers, and refinements to the crossblade independent rear suspension that was in the BF and still in the Territory all contribute to levels of balance and agility that we werent expecting. Across the range, the cars feel agile and responsive, the steering accurate and nicely weighted.
Body control is especially impressive, and the 2.6 turns lock-to-lock variable ratio steering feels responsive in your hands, without any discernible firming-up as you point into corners. The car generally points-in without fuss. The only downside to the equation is the hint of rattle rack that was heard, rather than felt at the wheel, in tight, hard cornering.
The other surprise in terms of the cars steering and balance was the fact that, obviously combined with the new suspension work and monotube shocks, the standard XR8 on its Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 245/40 R18s felt light and agile through a long and twisty downhill section. The combination of improved steering, body control and dedicated tyres belied the obvious extra weight. And there was ample power and torque from the new Boss 290 V8.
The V8s probably quieter than youd expect when you plant your foot producing a distant growl, rather than a throaty roar but Fords engineers have equipped the cars muffler with a SAM valve, which progressively opens to deliver more noise from around 3200rpm.
Ride is sporty without being harsh, and on the roads we drove it over the car felt controlled and balanced the rear squatting into corners until acceleration rather than buckboard flat. And, in our opinion, youd have to be doing something fairly silly to throw the car off the road.
The one disappointment from the XR8 was the optioned-up version. It brought mainly leather trim ($2100) and 19-inch alloys ($2400). Where the standard car turns-in so precisely on its standard 18, it ironically loses some of that precision when you step up to the 19s. Given similar steering input from the driver, the car takes marginally longer to react and at first feels as if its going to understeer in hard downhill cornering. Of course, theres plenty of response from the throttle to help you adjust its attitude, but lets just say that the car doesnt feel as easy to drive on the larger wheel and tyre combination.
The three new tyres developed with Goodyear and its Dunlop stablemate specifically for the FG the 19s on the option pack XR8 are carry-over are impressive, too. Grip levels are well matched to the ride afforded by the four states of suspension tune, which start with XT, step up for G6 and G6E, then XR6 (plus XR6 Turbo) and XR8, with G6-E Turbo getting its own tune.
In the base model XT with its new five-speed auto and on 215/60 R16s and steel wheels, the ride is softer but in no way sloppy. Again, the car points in to corners with surprisingly good steering feel and little complaint from its Goodyears. Though not as refined as the recalibrated ZF thats in the other FGs, the five-speeder gets the job done with surprising smoothness in the type of country road driving we tried. In fact, the car feels as if its happy to lope along and cruise at country road pace all day.
And, at the end of a 50-odd km stretch of that sort of driving, the cars onboard fuel consumption reading showed 9.3 L/100km. No complaints.
For our money, the G6 delivers an impressive amount of refinement and drivability for its $39,990. Essentially a replacement for the Futura specification, its suspension tune, 235/50 R17s on 7-spoke alloys and the new five-speed auto its shares with the XT is a combination thats discernibly a step up from the base car but with even better balance and sharper handling. Again, the car feels light and agile. Where the XT feels as if it wants to cruise on country roads all day, the G6 steps up to offer even sharper cornering ability and general drivability.
If you want to know why the XR6 Turbo and XR8 versions of the FG are priced identically -- $45,490 for the manual, and $46,990 for the auto the answer comes when you get behind the wheel. The cars share the same suspension tune and tyre combination and, lets just say, have similar amounts of urgency on tap.
The big difference, of course, is that the turbocharged six-cylinder version delivers its 270kW and 533Nm (vs the XR8s 290kW and 520Nm) with a strong turbo rush. And the turbo cars plentiful torque is there from 2000rpm through to 4750rpm.
From our drive of the Turbo part of it over a 13km loose gravel section with visibility problems in the red dust kicked up by the cars in front it was obvious that this is the car that delivers the type of urgency performance drivers will go for. Yes, we left the ESP on in the dirt; visibility was too bad for heroics, and the ESP is so unobtrusively-good, anyway.
On fast bitumen, the XR6 Turbo is, well, fast. And with even better balance from the lighter engine weight over its front axle, the car delivers real punch out of corners and a rush between them. Again, body control is impressive, and even left to its own devices, the ZF is well up to the task. Sure, the brakes smelled after the car had been punted on twisting bitumen, but they were still there when we needed them.
Wheels will have a lot more to say about Fords new FG Falcon range after its extensive drive of the cars (Wheels May, on-sale April 23, video coming soon).
- wheelsmag.com.au
Our behind-the-wheel verdict is in, and the news is that Ford's FG Falcon is good on the road. Surprisingly good.
After driving a solid cross section of the FG range through rural Victoria today, were prepared to say that the new Falcon exceeds expectations. And the 450km drive was on roads ranging from twisting blacktop, to loose, gravely dirt and even a burst of freeway driving.
Weve so far driven the base model XT, entry-level G Series G6, XR6 Turbo, and XR8 in both standard and option pack form. Theyve all been autos: the XT and G6 getting the new five-speeder; the others with the newly-calibrated version of the impressive six-speed ZF.
Manuals are in short supply in the press car line-up, but well land one, together with the XR6, G6E and G6E Turbo we havent yet driven, in todays last leg. Were especially keen to try the manual in the XR8, as Fords engineers say theyve dropped the cars axle ratio to deliver more immediacy through the gears. And it has a new launch control function...
But what we can tell you after driving over plenty of challenging roads is that Fords work on the car has proved measurably good. The new, lighter aluminium front suspension, Bishop-based variable rack steering, monotube dampers, and refinements to the crossblade independent rear suspension that was in the BF and still in the Territory all contribute to levels of balance and agility that we werent expecting. Across the range, the cars feel agile and responsive, the steering accurate and nicely weighted.
Body control is especially impressive, and the 2.6 turns lock-to-lock variable ratio steering feels responsive in your hands, without any discernible firming-up as you point into corners. The car generally points-in without fuss. The only downside to the equation is the hint of rattle rack that was heard, rather than felt at the wheel, in tight, hard cornering.
The other surprise in terms of the cars steering and balance was the fact that, obviously combined with the new suspension work and monotube shocks, the standard XR8 on its Dunlop SP Sport Maxx 245/40 R18s felt light and agile through a long and twisty downhill section. The combination of improved steering, body control and dedicated tyres belied the obvious extra weight. And there was ample power and torque from the new Boss 290 V8.
The V8s probably quieter than youd expect when you plant your foot producing a distant growl, rather than a throaty roar but Fords engineers have equipped the cars muffler with a SAM valve, which progressively opens to deliver more noise from around 3200rpm.
Ride is sporty without being harsh, and on the roads we drove it over the car felt controlled and balanced the rear squatting into corners until acceleration rather than buckboard flat. And, in our opinion, youd have to be doing something fairly silly to throw the car off the road.
The one disappointment from the XR8 was the optioned-up version. It brought mainly leather trim ($2100) and 19-inch alloys ($2400). Where the standard car turns-in so precisely on its standard 18, it ironically loses some of that precision when you step up to the 19s. Given similar steering input from the driver, the car takes marginally longer to react and at first feels as if its going to understeer in hard downhill cornering. Of course, theres plenty of response from the throttle to help you adjust its attitude, but lets just say that the car doesnt feel as easy to drive on the larger wheel and tyre combination.
The three new tyres developed with Goodyear and its Dunlop stablemate specifically for the FG the 19s on the option pack XR8 are carry-over are impressive, too. Grip levels are well matched to the ride afforded by the four states of suspension tune, which start with XT, step up for G6 and G6E, then XR6 (plus XR6 Turbo) and XR8, with G6-E Turbo getting its own tune.
In the base model XT with its new five-speed auto and on 215/60 R16s and steel wheels, the ride is softer but in no way sloppy. Again, the car points in to corners with surprisingly good steering feel and little complaint from its Goodyears. Though not as refined as the recalibrated ZF thats in the other FGs, the five-speeder gets the job done with surprising smoothness in the type of country road driving we tried. In fact, the car feels as if its happy to lope along and cruise at country road pace all day.
And, at the end of a 50-odd km stretch of that sort of driving, the cars onboard fuel consumption reading showed 9.3 L/100km. No complaints.
For our money, the G6 delivers an impressive amount of refinement and drivability for its $39,990. Essentially a replacement for the Futura specification, its suspension tune, 235/50 R17s on 7-spoke alloys and the new five-speed auto its shares with the XT is a combination thats discernibly a step up from the base car but with even better balance and sharper handling. Again, the car feels light and agile. Where the XT feels as if it wants to cruise on country roads all day, the G6 steps up to offer even sharper cornering ability and general drivability.
If you want to know why the XR6 Turbo and XR8 versions of the FG are priced identically -- $45,490 for the manual, and $46,990 for the auto the answer comes when you get behind the wheel. The cars share the same suspension tune and tyre combination and, lets just say, have similar amounts of urgency on tap.
The big difference, of course, is that the turbocharged six-cylinder version delivers its 270kW and 533Nm (vs the XR8s 290kW and 520Nm) with a strong turbo rush. And the turbo cars plentiful torque is there from 2000rpm through to 4750rpm.
From our drive of the Turbo part of it over a 13km loose gravel section with visibility problems in the red dust kicked up by the cars in front it was obvious that this is the car that delivers the type of urgency performance drivers will go for. Yes, we left the ESP on in the dirt; visibility was too bad for heroics, and the ESP is so unobtrusively-good, anyway.
On fast bitumen, the XR6 Turbo is, well, fast. And with even better balance from the lighter engine weight over its front axle, the car delivers real punch out of corners and a rush between them. Again, body control is impressive, and even left to its own devices, the ZF is well up to the task. Sure, the brakes smelled after the car had been punted on twisting bitumen, but they were still there when we needed them.
Wheels will have a lot more to say about Fords new FG Falcon range after its extensive drive of the cars (Wheels May, on-sale April 23, video coming soon).
- wheelsmag.com.au
Ford FPV GT E Falcon Revealed (AU)
Australian Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) revealed today their range topping all-new GT E Falcon, a visually toned down version of the GT with the same performance figures. The FPV GT E is powered by the upgraded 5.4 liter Boss V8 engine and is good for 315 kW of power (422 hp) and 551 Nm of torque, just like its racy and flashy GT stable mate.
Coupled to all this power is a ZF six-speed high-torque automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift and manages a respectable 14 liters of petrol per 100 km. FPV installed a Brembo performance brake system with 355 x 32 mm cross-drilled and ventilated front rotors with six-piston calipers and 330 x 28 mm rotors with 4-piston calipers in the rear.
Ford Performance Vehicles General Manager Rod Barrett said, “The GT E is a combination of luxury V8 and executive racer. It’s for those who want the power and sound of a high-performance vehicle without the overt styling and bright colors.”
The GT E replaces the bright colors, stripes and large rear wing with chrome accents, boot lip spoiler, black chrome around the grille mesh, unique 19 inch Alpine silver alloy wheels, shadow or red leather sport seats and dark walnut woodgrain finish. The new Ford FPV GT E Falcon will go on sale in Australia this June for about AUD 76,990.
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Australian Ford Performance Vehicles (FPV) revealed today their range topping all-new GT E Falcon, a visually toned down version of the GT with the same performance figures. The FPV GT E is powered by the upgraded 5.4 liter Boss V8 engine and is good for 315 kW of power (422 hp) and 551 Nm of torque, just like its racy and flashy GT stable mate.
Coupled to all this power is a ZF six-speed high-torque automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift and manages a respectable 14 liters of petrol per 100 km. FPV installed a Brembo performance brake system with 355 x 32 mm cross-drilled and ventilated front rotors with six-piston calipers and 330 x 28 mm rotors with 4-piston calipers in the rear.
Ford Performance Vehicles General Manager Rod Barrett said, “The GT E is a combination of luxury V8 and executive racer. It’s for those who want the power and sound of a high-performance vehicle without the overt styling and bright colors.”
The GT E replaces the bright colors, stripes and large rear wing with chrome accents, boot lip spoiler, black chrome around the grille mesh, unique 19 inch Alpine silver alloy wheels, shadow or red leather sport seats and dark walnut woodgrain finish. The new Ford FPV GT E Falcon will go on sale in Australia this June for about AUD 76,990.
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Ford FPV GTP and GT Released (Au)
With 422 hp Boss V8
Ford FPV GT
Ford FPV GT-P
Together with the FPV GT E, Ford Performance Vehicles also released the GT and GT-P (P for Premium) models and their official specs. The new 5.4 liter Boss V8 engine produces a whopping 315 kW / 422 hp with 551 Nm of torque and can be combined with a TR6060 six-speed manual transmission or ZF six-speed high-torque automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift.
The new FPV GT range comes with a performance double wishbone front suspension and performance Control Blade Independent Rear Suspension (IRS), 355 x 22 mm front brake rotors with 4-piston calipers and 328 x 26 mm rear rotors with single red piston caliper, high-flow “straight through” twin exhaust system and new spring and damper settings.
The FPV GTP and GT are instantly recognizable with their bulging hood with strikign decal, front grille, side striping and large rear wing. “We wanted to make a statement and distinguish ourselves from the mainstream look and we’ve done that,” said Barrett. “When one of these cars is coming towards you, you instantly know it’s an FPV.”
Both the Ford FPV GT and GT-P will go on sale this June for AUD 65,990 and AUD 75,990 respectively.
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With 422 hp Boss V8
Ford FPV GT
Ford FPV GT-P
Together with the FPV GT E, Ford Performance Vehicles also released the GT and GT-P (P for Premium) models and their official specs. The new 5.4 liter Boss V8 engine produces a whopping 315 kW / 422 hp with 551 Nm of torque and can be combined with a TR6060 six-speed manual transmission or ZF six-speed high-torque automatic transmission with Sequential Sports Shift.
The new FPV GT range comes with a performance double wishbone front suspension and performance Control Blade Independent Rear Suspension (IRS), 355 x 22 mm front brake rotors with 4-piston calipers and 328 x 26 mm rear rotors with single red piston caliper, high-flow “straight through” twin exhaust system and new spring and damper settings.
The FPV GTP and GT are instantly recognizable with their bulging hood with strikign decal, front grille, side striping and large rear wing. “We wanted to make a statement and distinguish ourselves from the mainstream look and we’ve done that,” said Barrett. “When one of these cars is coming towards you, you instantly know it’s an FPV.”
Both the Ford FPV GT and GT-P will go on sale this June for AUD 65,990 and AUD 75,990 respectively.
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