Valentine 1 Vs. Passport 9500i? (Let's chat)

If you have the money for V1 get it..It's the best available.

If ur like most others..like myself..get the 8500 X50..It works great...I am happy i didn't dump all that money into the v1..as i have more money for other stuff.

In all honesty..i know couple state troopers and local cops..and they all tell me the same thing..I don't drive around w/ my gun on...When i see someone speeding i hit a button and scan the car for it's speed and turn it back off unless i am chasing.

In other words..any detector will only warn u if the cop has his gun on.

-C

true, and any good traffic cop can guess your speed within 5mph w/o a gun. And most of the time you see a cop on the road (at least in my area) they're on their way to somewhere more important than stopping someone for speeding or a minor violation. As long as you're not more than 10-15 over they won't care in that case. A detector is more for speed traps where all they are doing is sitting and waiting.
 
You have to read about the testing before you can understand the results.

"For the Straight-Line sensitivity test, we used radar absorbent foam (this was not used for the other tests).

Eccosorb is specially-designed foam which absorbs radar. In this test, the Guys of LIDAR used layers of Eccosorb in front of the radar antennas to reduce the radar signal, or make it weaker.

Why? Because a detector's job is to sniff out weak signals.

The further away you are from the radar, the weaker the signal becomes. Today's high-end radar detectors can detect radar miles and miles away in the right situations. Because of this, radar detector tests commonly use hills, terrain, or other means to reduce the radar signal for test purposes. But every test situation is different, and these methods can sometimes yield sporadic results.

Enter Eccosorb. The Eccosorb allowed us to reduce the radar signal in a highly-controlled manner, and allowed us to test on a straight course under highly controlled conditions. This method of testing also reduced or eliminated some of the unpredictability that occurs with other methods, and yielded highly-repeatable results.

In addition to the Eccosorb in front of the radar, the sides and rear were also surrounded with Eccosorb just for good measure to help prevent any stray radar reflections.

Please remember: what these test results provide is an indication of "relative sensitivity", or how the detectors might compare against themselves or each other. Just like any other radar detector test (foam or not), the absolute distances in the results cannot be applied to any situation other than the specific test conditions.

In this test, just like any other, it's the ratios that matter."

Thanks - I missed that. It seems they wanted a nice general test assuming some type of adversarial use conditions. A nice thing about SoCal is that everyone generally drives pretty fast and the CHP is also generally pretty cool unless you are being a jerk. So my S2 was purchased for long stretches of driving on open highway in the desert to places like Vegas. Under those conditions, it alerts a long time before I actually encounter the radar unit. So it may be a fine test (although it might be interesting to let the mfgs comment on Eccosorb) but it does not represent my use case.
 
So I take it you guys recommend a V1! :)

Is the Valentine site the only place to purchase or can I find them elsewhere?

Thanks
 
I have the 9500i and i love it. It has the gps to mark known speed trap locations. It can be completely dark so that the display is black and you have audio alerts. It is also able to adjust you alert sensitivity based on your speed and audio alert is adjustable based on what is being heard in the car for example loud music. The 9500i also has the capability for firmware update through a 5 pin mini usb cable that escort will send you if you register it. The 9500i is already set also for the new Ku band. If I could do it again, I would get the 9500i over. I hope this helps.
 
So I take it you guys recommend a V1! :)

Is the Valentine site the only place to purchase or can I find them elsewhere?

Thanks

Call Valentine Research at 1 800 331 3030 and ask for a returned V1 and you will get 10% off the retail price of $399. Tell them you don't mind being put on the waiting list. Guaranteed, they will ship a V1 out within 2 days. It will be the latest version V1.8 POP2 w/ Euro-mode and 3.863 firmware and that comes with all the accessories and a 1 year warranty.
 
9500i FTW

You should really consider the 9500i. The only neat thing about the V1 is the arrows. After a week or two of "normal" driving, you will have blocked out all of the normal "false alarms" on your daily routes with the 9500i and its GPS system. After that, you will just know when that thing is going off, there WILL be an officer somewhere (and he won't need to be close!).
I have one and it is the best product. Period.

Also, it has the capability to track more than one "bogey"... up to 8. This thing is really advanced and you should go to the website and watch all of the demos and make a better decision that going by what any of us have to say... even including me. Make your own choice, but make sure you have all of the facts!
 
I also forgot to mention that the 9500i displays what speed you were at when the alert when off to let you know what speed you may have been clocked at.
 
I also forgot to mention that the 9500i displays what speed you were at when the alert when off to let you know what speed you may have been clocked at.

Not just that, you can have it display that as its default display. It is pretty sweet and lets you know (if you get caught) how fast he really caught you going.
 
Also, it has the capability to track more than one "bogey"... up to 8. This thing is really advanced and you should go to the website and watch all of the demos and make a better decision that going by what any of us have to say... even including me. Make your own choice, but make sure you have all of the facts!

The V1 tracks more than 1 bogey and tells you were they are..
 
Sorry, but the Bel STI Driver and its younger sibling the RX65 annihilate just about everything else.

I've spent enough time on those radar detector enthusiast websites to have seen the test results time and time again. The V1 is showing its age, though it is still a capable detector.

I had an 8500 and it was a great little device. Sold it, and got the Bel 995.
 
true, and any good traffic cop can guess your speed within 5mph w/o a gun. And most of the time you see a cop on the road (at least in my area) they're on their way to somewhere more important than stopping someone for speeding or a minor violation. As long as you're not more than 10-15 over they won't care in that case. A detector is more for speed traps where all they are doing is sitting and waiting.
I got pulled over for going 5 over the speed limit
"You in an emergency?"
"no sir, I'm just trying to get to school on time."
"well, you almost lucked out, cuz there is no way that I could peg you for going 5 over, so instead I'm writing you down for a license plate infraction."
"A what?"
"You can't have any part of Texas covered by your license plate cover."
"uhhhh, When did that go into effect, because I wasn't told that in drivers school."
"3 months ago."
"um, ok."
"You're free to go."
"With all due respect sir, that ticket is ridiculous, and I'll be taking it to court, (sarcastically) Good Day to you sir."
(rolling up my window as I hear this)
".... Kids these days"

oh
and the cop?
His name was Sargeant Johnson.
Isn't that the most stereotypical cop name ever?
 
Sorry, but the Bel STI Driver and its younger sibling the RX65 annihilate just about everything else.

I've spent enough time on those radar detector enthusiast websites to have seen the test results time and time again. The V1 is showing its age, though it is still a capable detector.

I had an 8500 and it was a great little device. Sold it, and got the Bel 995.

You are either blind or you need to spend a little more time on the enthusiast websites because the Valentine One wins almost every time. Go to any high performance car forum and the Valentine One will win with about 75% of the votes while all the other brands split up the remaining 25% of the votes. I would like to know the name of these websites that show the V1 as not being number one.

How is the V1 showing its age when it was the first radar detector to be made out of magnesium when it first came out in 1992 while the rest were made out of plastic? The Bel STi is the only other detector made out of magnesium and that didn't happen until 2006 which is 14 years after the V1 first did it. The Valentine One is the only radar detector with one front and one rear antenna to detect radar and all of the rest don't have an antenna to detect and locate radar from the rear.

The Valentine One is the only one that has arrows to actually point at the threat and flash for the worst threat. The V1 is the only radar detector that is truly upgradeable unlike the Bels and Escorts that just come out with a new model every 3 years. The Valentine One is also the smallest and lightest radar detector of all the top brands made today. On top of the Valentine One detecting radar and lidar better than the others, it is $399 while the Bel STi is about $450 and the Escort 9500i is about $50 to $100 more depending on if you want red or blue leds.

http://guysoflidar.com/august-2007/radar-detector-test.html

http://www.radardetector.net/
 
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the 9500i the rx65, and the v1 will all get the job done with confidence. I just prefer the arrows, as stated before.
 
I know the Valentine has a bogey counter, does anybody else? I know alot of cops who setup speed traps purposely in areas where detectors pick up false signals. I would think that a bogey counter is the best thing to prepare someone for that.
 
I got pulled over for going 5 over the speed limit
"You in an emergency?"
"no sir, I'm just trying to get to school on time."
"well, you almost lucked out, cuz there is no way that I could peg you for going 5 over, so instead I'm writing you down for a license plate infraction."
"A what?"
"You can't have any part of Texas covered by your license plate cover."
"uhhhh, When did that go into effect, because I wasn't told that in drivers school."
"3 months ago."
"um, ok."
"You're free to go."
"With all due respect sir, that ticket is ridiculous, and I'll be taking it to court, (sarcastically) Good Day to you sir."
(rolling up my window as I hear this)
".... Kids these days"

oh
and the cop?
His name was Sargeant Johnson.
Isn't that the most stereotypical cop name ever?

That's Spring for you and now they're cracking down harder near 1960 more
 
Well, I have been reading all your comments and I have mixed feeling towards the 9500i BUT I think I am going to go to CarToys and pickup a 9500i and try it for a couple days and see if I like it. If, I don't like it.... Return it and order a V1 for sure
 

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