subparpunk03
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oh and also I think the trd blower is a roots style, not centrifugal.
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subparpunk03
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You're right. The trd supercharger for the 1zz corolla, and the greddy supercharger for the celica are both roots, I was thinking of those. The tc one is def centrifugal.
I stand corrected.
I do not miss my toyota days.... turbo mazda ftw!
I stand corrected.
I do not miss my toyota days.... turbo mazda ftw!
blkspdfreak
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my buddy had a t3/t4, intercooler, 3" exhaust into an apexi muffler, msd, fuelrail, bigger injectors and some other parts and he was boosting up to 18 psi and beating evo's. its quick but he sold it because he didnt think it was going to hold up much longer.
Anyone asking this question about the TC must not know too much about this car. It has pencil thin rods, which are known to snap with high end mods such as turbo or superchargers, the TRD super charger is a step in the right direction but will only net the car a just under 200hp, which is safer for the TCs weaker parts. They are good looking cars, but far from fast, I am 100% even a modified version would not pose a threat to a stock MS3
oskinosmee
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Weak? They got better internals then our cars i bet, if not better then pretty close. Try putting a turbo on a regular 3 and boost 15psi and see what happens.
He was refering to a MS3. Any stock N/A motor boosted 15psi is gunna be stressed beyond breaking point.
Your kidding right?!?! What would lead you to believe that?
oskinosmee
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They have forged internals and have been proven to be able to handle it. Check out the scion forums there are quite a few TC's with 500whp on stock internals. They dont say how long it runs but they are there. From my brother having one and seeing it get pushed, please dont doubt there engines as they are very strong way stonger than you guys think.
Renzokuken
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Those TC guys are always trying to run up on me. For some reason i feel there is quite an overabundance of these in my town, I havent run into one that can even come CLOSE. Regardless, Im sure the car has "potential" but were talking big money upgrades, like forged parts and crap like that.
then why would toyota put such a beefy motor in a heavy chassis and not add more power? I am sure the car is a great car for average use, maybe even light modding, but it is a Camry motor meant for longevity and fuel efficiency. Your brother may think he has a rocket but there is a reason you dont see a ton of these cars around with 250 or 300 hp.
oskinosmee
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There is more than you think every single one you see with a front mount will prolly pull on you. Dont believe me try and see, camry motor the damn V6 camry is faster in a 1/4 mile than our car say motor trend. So saying its a camry is a honor. I'm not trying to bash your ride or anything but they deserve more credit than you give.
08 Tc $18,500+ $5,000 for turbo kit and supporting mods=$23,000 with at least 300whp.
Trust me buddy there are so many here in MD.
Check this out http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ClTjZcEG3s
smakdown61
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Toyota is very known for overbuilding their engines...especially the v6. The 3VZ-FE in the mid 90s camry's could hold 450whp on stock internals (forged steel crankshaft and giant cast rods). The 5VZ that the stuck in the 3rd gen runners was only rated at 185 hp, but was also tested to withstand 450 stock and over 900hp built.
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Renzokuken
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I take that back, they come with forged internals, WOW. Thats nice must be great for modding, but with just those TRD upgrades and the S/C Still no competition, BUT yeah, Im sure if they threw a big snail on there and go 20 psi then were s*** out of luck.
oskinosmee
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100% agree TRD S/C TC is junk and will never keep up with a stock MS3
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i've been to plenty of shows where stock engine TCs are making 300 to 400whp with no internal modification. the engine is tough.
mrlilguy157
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noice. i've got a big TC friend. he's got a hott car and wants to go turbo sometime. who's got the best kit out there?
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It wont do it i watched a race yesterday. My buddy Juan ran his TC which has a lot of mods and is running about 215 hp against the Speed3 that drives by my school. he lost...badly.
Oh and yeah the toyota engine is tough as nails. ive had one apart and its not at all bad.(my school is for mechanics, im learning to be one, and we have toyota t-ten in the school so ive been around these care a lot now)
Oh and yeah the toyota engine is tough as nails. ive had one apart and its not at all bad.(my school is for mechanics, im learning to be one, and we have toyota t-ten in the school so ive been around these care a lot now)
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kneedragger241
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Ever hear the saying that goes something like "you can mod a Civic to go faster than a Ferrari, but at the end of the day it's still a Civic"?
So someone throws a bunch of money at a Scion TC because once modded, it has the potential to be as fast as a stock MS3 and that's supposed to prove something? All it proves is that someone spent a lot of money to make a slow car go fast when they could have just bought the faster car to begin with.
Since the focus seems to be on potential, why not do a comparison where the same amount of money is spent modding both cars to reach their respective potentials?
So someone throws a bunch of money at a Scion TC because once modded, it has the potential to be as fast as a stock MS3 and that's supposed to prove something? All it proves is that someone spent a lot of money to make a slow car go fast when they could have just bought the faster car to begin with.
Since the focus seems to be on potential, why not do a comparison where the same amount of money is spent modding both cars to reach their respective potentials?
