NO more blue smoke!

SuperStretch18 said:
Shouldn't have mentioned removing the cat, but in any case...

There is no such thing as a service tech voiding your warranty. Mazda USA can, but your local service department can not. The implication he made is that if a spring blew, that wouldn't be covered by warranty, which is bull. I would have pulled Magnuson-Moss so fast his head would spin...

By the way, how the hell did you get an appointment so fast?!?
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I just drove in and he came out and helped me out. So what should i do? Put back the test pipe? Because if i run the stock cat their will be no smoke.
I also called Turbo international and they told me the same about a bad turbo seal. I also called Turbo power and guess what, Bad turbo seal.
 
dude your trippin our car has two resonators that lead to a muffler just before the rear of the car. call mazda and ask i am sure the last one isnt a resonator. like said before it would look like the other two, but it doesnt because it is something different with a different function- a muffler!
 
bykeryder4life said:
dude your trippin our car has two resonators that lead to a muffler just before the rear of the car. call mazda and ask i am sure the last one isnt a resonator. like said before it would look like the other two, but it doesnt because it is something different with a different function- a muffler!
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no its a resinator just like this one, this is a resiantor not a muffler, though in theory you can say resinators are mufflers. mufflers have chambers
 

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OK, enough talk about muffins and respirators!!!!...uh, I meant mufflers and resonators... (blah) (lol2)

Anyone have any advice for niz55...?
 
niz55 said:
I just drove in and he came out and helped me out. So what should i do? Put back the test pipe? Because if i run the stock cat their will be no smoke.
I also called Turbo international and they told me the same about a bad turbo seal. I also called Turbo power and guess what, Bad turbo seal.
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It is happening to people with stock exhausts too. As I stated, it is an intermittent issue, but they have a test they can run without having the test pipe on! You won't need to physically see it if they can test for it. Shoot voicekoil a PM and see if he has more details on what the diagnostic was called...

I'd try reaching out to your salesperson before going to another dealer (or as AutoXRacer said Manager, GM, etc.), but that is always an option too. This is exactly how I would have handled it...

SuperStretch18 said:
So long as you have the stock exhaust on, it should go something like:

niz55: "Every so often, I get a huge cloud of blue smoke on idle; it doesn't seem normal and I'm worried that there is something wrong with my new car."

Dealer: "If we can't replicate it, then we can't fix it...blah, blah, blah"

niz55: "I understand that, but I have heard that there have been issues with turbo seals failing and there is a diagnostic that you can run to check for issues."
Dealer: "I've never heard of that, you must have read that on an internet forum... blah, blah..."

niz55: "I learned it because a friend had a similar issue and another dealer was able to help him. Maybe I should just go there, as they are probably more equiped to work on the mazdaspeed vehicles..."

Dealer: "Let me ask one of the service guys and see what they can do..."

Your just asking them to take a look at the car. They might charge you a fee if they don't find anything, but if you were getting blue smoke, it is unlikely that there are no issues.

If you haven't sent in your dealer survey from the original purchase, I would play that card with the salesman, as that directly impacts their bonuses...
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yeah but since you have the test pipe yours should be louder than mine, a friend of mine has my set up with the test pipe and it is ALOT louder than mine it sets off car alarms.
 
Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but all that blue smoke? It's stopping somewhere. Probably in your cat. Have fun with oil clogged cats and the associated performance losses. That's if your turbo doesn't go first.

GET YOUR s*** CHECKED. Not seeing the problem != not having a problem. Super is really trying to do you guys a favor.
 
Powerslave said:
yeah but since you have the test pipe yours should be louder than mine, a friend of mine has my set up with the test pipe and it is ALOT louder than mine it sets off car alarms.
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Can we say R-I-C-E...? (lol2) (ricer)


Gasological said:
Also, I don't know if it's been mentioned, but all that blue smoke? It's stopping somewhere. Probably in your cat. Have fun with oil clogged cats and the associated performance losses. That's if your turbo doesn't go first.

GET YOUR s*** CHECKED. Not seeing the problem != not having a problem. Super is really trying to do you guys a favor.
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+1

$400 O2 sensor will fail, then cat #1 will clog/fail, and finally cat #2 will be damaged... All charged to Mazda if the dealership does not (get their act together) fix the car ASAP...
 
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HIGHBRED8 said:
ok now your just being a drama queen. Comparing someone who altered their exhaust to a common criminal, and "your" e.r? Ha unless your a physician then its not "your" e.r and I really doubt a doctor would misspell vicious (unless you were speaking of their gelatinous properties?) No, your arrogant attitude sounds more like a cocky tech or b****y r.n. so go back to filling paper work and connecting ekg's that you struggle to read and stop making someone who did absolutely nothing wrong and is complaining of an underlying issue which was uncovered by a modification that is hardly to blame for any malfunction feel like they are at fault . oh and before you call the gains this gives "minimal" maybe you should at least check into your statements and you would see that they average 30-50 hp gains with exhaust, not so minimal.

now had this been about street racing or b.s like that then your hissy fit may have been merited, but in this case your simply being annoying. So please, with all due respect (which i will give you a tad of for being in the same field as I) if you cant give helpful input then keep your ridiculous notions to your self.

as for the smoke. it does come from a oil seal leak, it is hidden by the cats, it will eventually get worse (could be a long time though) and the end result wont be good. my suggestion is to find a dealer who is more understanding, or speak directly to a tech who should know something about this. there is no reason for them not to cover this because the problem exist with or without the test pipe. you just need to find someone who can pull their head out their ass long enough to hear you out.
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Nope, no queen here, and no Im not a Doctor, but I am an RN and have been for 8 years. And you obviously don't know that its the nurses that run the ER, not the docs...

I see that you stopped reading at the part that you wanted to. I said that " of course thats not you" I was simply using an analogy of someone who ***** something up themselves and then expects the company to pay for it.

AND wasn't this the same guy that let his friend redline the snot out of the car and THEN noticed the blue smoke?? Then he tells the dealer that he put a test pipe in the car, cutting out the catalytic converter????? omfg talk about diarrhea of the mouth!! Theres not a Dealer alive that will touch that car and don't think he isn't on the phone notifying other dealers. Its a small world.

The truth is, you should never never ever modify a car that you can't put back to stock and not be noticed while you are still under the warranty. Period.

Oh and lemme know where you are so if I see you in ER complaining of some sort of pain, Ill make sure to remind you that I can't do anything about it since Im too busy filling out paperwork..(shrug)
 
Thanks for the help guys. But i think i'm just going to crash the car in to mazda's service dep. Just j/k.. I wont stop till i get it fixed.
 
niz55 said:
Thanks for the help guys. But i think i'm just going to crash the car in to mazda's service dep. Just j/k.. I wont stop till i get it fixed.
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good luck with the fix !!! i'm trying to resolve mine, but i have this constant check engine light, on and off weird. ordered a new turbo and hopefully when that comes in, i'll take apart the downpipe and testpipe to match everything up again.
 
seriously peterdaniel, What im trying to tell you is that. his mods did not cause this. As you can read for your self, many others have this issue and its a known problem. If you dont want to do anything to your car thats your deal, but dont come out bashing somebody else because they did and uncovered an issue. If your happy knowing your car might be affected but would rather ignore it because you cant see it, thats fine.

and i do know E.R's very well, and yes R.N's do do most of the work but just as i answer to a medical director, you answer to a doctor. Any DR would be pretty pist if a nurse told them that this was their E.R. thats what my comment was for. If you truly dislike people modding cars and discussing problems they might encounter then your in the wrong forum.

And to the ones with this issue, i for one am glad this was uncovered and hope your able to get it taken care of under warranty because its a faulty part and no amount of removed mufflers and resonators should affect that.

sorry ill get back to topic now
 
peterdaniel - (gtfo) stop being an ass

everyone else - what was this about a test to check out the turbo? anyone have specifics?
 
ah, I see.... I'm hoping there it something out there for it. I think I'm going to let my car idle for 5-10 min to see if theres anything, esp since its warmer now

I was just thinking if mazda had a test developed for it then in a sense they would be admitting that there was a widespread issue with the turbos
 
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