You have to cut the stock MS3 exhaust to get it out!!???

I cut mine, and where I cut, there is enough elbow for it to be re-welded..

besides, who'd want to go back to stock??? Unless you plan on getting rid of your car in a few years?

Here's a linky on how I did my install... I did it the faster, more convenient way...

Installing MazdaSpeed Cat Back Exhaust

you never know whats gonna happen. I had one afternoon to put my whole WRX back together to trade it in for the MS3. If i had to find someone to weld my stock exhaust back together, I would have had to trade the car in with my aftermarket on there, thats $400-$500 down the drain.

you cant be so short sighted to claim that you are never ever going to want to get rid of your MS3. Who knows what will come along in the future.

also, if I ever want to swap back to stock to take it in to the dealer for warranty work, I now have to find someone to weld the thing back in for me.

Its never a bad idea to keep your stock parts...I kept all of my WRX stock parts and now I am rolling in about 2k in cash selling my performance parts because I was able to swap the stock parts back onto the car to trade it in. A little bit of planning ahead saved me $2,000....sounds worth it to me.
 
Yeah Ill have to agree that saving the stock parts can definitely benefit you in the long run but regardless of any car. You are more than likely going to have to cut the exhaust off of any car. Only 5% of cars I think in my personal opinion can you just unbolt the stock exhaust off with ease. I have to cut the exhaust off my 02 P5 cause the bolts were all kinds of rusted.
 
The vast majority of exhausts are not able to be removed without cutting or a lot of work. Deal with it.
 
to those who are upset about cutting the stock exhaust...

i understand. i come from the honda world where you don't have to cut anything...

but, it seems to me there is an easy solution here that can be done cleanly.

can you simply have a flange welded to each end of the cut (as long as the cut is done in an ideal spot), so you can join them together with two bolts through the sandwiched flanges when and/or if you decided to reinstall it?

seems to me you can, and if it's done right it can look rather factory (clean).
 
you never know whats gonna happen. I had one afternoon to put my whole WRX back together to trade it in for the MS3. If i had to find someone to weld my stock exhaust back together, I would have had to trade the car in with my aftermarket on there, thats $400-$500 down the drain.

you cant be so short sighted to claim that you are never ever going to want to get rid of your MS3. Who knows what will come along in the future.

also, if I ever want to swap back to stock to take it in to the dealer for warranty work, I now have to find someone to weld the thing back in for me.

Its never a bad idea to keep your stock parts...I kept all of my WRX stock parts and now I am rolling in about 2k in cash selling my performance parts because I was able to swap the stock parts back onto the car to trade it in. A little bit of planning ahead saved me $2,000....sounds worth it to me.

True. But I plan on keeping my MS3 for as long as its drivable. So no worries for me there. Do you really think that the dealer will say something about a MazdaSpeed part? I've already had a chit chat with the service manager here, he said I can bring it in any time I have warranty issues. Besides; if I have a problem with the exhuast portion of my car, I'd look into it myself. The only problem I can see happening is a leak, and that my friend, I can fix myself. No need in taking it in for warranty repairs. That pretty much goes for anything that is done to my car where I can figure it out. For me, I can pretty much fix anything so as long as I know the problem. Of course this method will not do for everyone, but I did mention that this is the most convenient for me, and the quickest at that. If you must have it in one piece, either do the extra work, or get someone else to do it.

I'm sure with your having to put your wrx back together in one afternoon isn't really anyones fault but yours. Piss Poor Planning. By that, I mean if I had already planned on trading my wrx in from the get go, I'd have already had the after market parts swapped out for the stock. If my exhaust had to be re-installed from being cut, I'm sure I'd pay the 50-60 dollars to have it re-welded. Not only would it save me the time, but I'd have that afternoon alone to be cruising in my new Speed3 by having stuff done. But not everyone tends to think that way. But hey what do I know.

I agree with you on keeping the stock parts. But having owned my 01 Ford Focus(yes I drive a Focus too) the stock parts I had from installing aftermarket parts just took up space in my garage. Over the past 6 years, I've already sold, or thrown away stock parts. I still have the OEM side skirts if anyone is interested in throwing those on thier Speed3s? lol Anyways, what I learned from that experience, is to just get rid of the stock parts if they are just taking up space. Especially if the parts have been sitting there for 2-3 years. Ya dig?

But, back on topic. If you have the time and its really that important for you to have the stock exhaust taken off as one whole piece, then do it. If not; just cut that biatch outta there!!! lol
 
to those who are upset about cutting the stock exhaust...

i understand. i come from the honda world where you don't have to cut anything...

but, it seems to me there is an easy solution here that can be done cleanly.

can you simply have a flange welded to each end of the cut (as long as the cut is done in an ideal spot), so you can join them together with two bolts through the sandwiched flanges when and/or if you decided to reinstall it?

seems to me you can, and if it's done right it can look rather factory (clean).

Great idea with the flange stuff, I would love to see someone do this, and post a pic! (dance)
 
Mazdaspeed parts are covered under the original 3 year factory warranty, and most extended warranties will cover accessories offered by the manufacturer. We've cut a bunch of exhausts off to install the Mazdaspeed pipe. If you are not doing it yourself, and especially when you have it done at the dealer (I know we are not the cheapest labor in town) the difference in cutting vs. removing subframe can be hefty in labor charges.

And remember, aftermarket parts and accessories cannot void your warranty. That's illegal. Aftermarket parts and accessories that cause problems will not be covered, nor will the issue they have caused (such as a CEL).

If you think you can get some dough out of a used MAZDASPEED pipe, and you want to take the time to drop the rear suspension, do it. Otherwise, get familiar with a sawsall, or an oxy acetelene torch. Personally, I think the torch is more fun.
 
Great idea with the flange stuff, I would love to see someone do this, and post a pic!
Seems like a lot of trouble when you can just drop the subframe. It really isn't hard. Believe me. Takes about as much time as cutting the exhaust and welding it back together again.
 
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