winter in west palm? lol. we don't really have winter. also, you're kind of on edge about something... too much coffee this morning? I'm jealous, we're on boil water restriction, so I can't have coffee. anyway, I am of the opinion that the farther from the engine you can get your air, the better. at speed, I agree, it probably doesn't make a huge difference, but I drive around town mostly, and we have TONS of stop lights. Anyway, I'm not 100% yet on which I'll be getting. I like the cobb for the price, and the cp-e for the power and technology. we'll see. thanks for all the super input!