Please read, CIA vs K&N...

[AGR]

in the end..........

you gotta do what makes you happy!!

I like the sound of the Blow-off valve, and (I think) added throttle response with the K&N.

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

Like I said previously, Im not a big fan of the CAI because of the hydro lock issue, but I think as long as youre not recklessly driving through poodles youll be fine.

Cooler air is the key to making the Speed run better.

 

[AGR]

Like I said previously, Im not a big fan of the CAI because of the hydro lock issue, but I think as long as youre not recklessly driving through poodles youll be fine.

Cooler air is the key to making the Speed run better.

The longer pipe (near the headlight) to the filter may be what your looking for then.....

 

[kwiktsi]

Weather strip removed, FP kit.......What do you think of the exhaust (no muffler), Joe?
http://forum.protegemp3.com/vbb222/showthread.php?s=&threadid=21889

.....mine is being done now as I type this. The photos, I took on Saturday.

Cool, and you were happy with the results ?

As for the muffler removal- I think there might be a *slight* gain, but with 2 cats and a resonator before it, I would say it would be more for sound than performance.
Joe

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

One thing I do know is that a stock MSP in 60 degree weather will run better than an MSP boosting 8psi with a cone filter in 90degree weather. The problem is evident, working on an efficient solution is the task at hand. I think I will opt for the CAI, front mount IC and exhaust to start the festivities. If & when the engine pops, Ill build it the way it should have been built; Forged rods, low compression forged pistons & match ported head and intake. Ive never been much of a follower anyways.

 

[AGR]

Cool, and you were happy with the results ?

As for the muffler removal- I think there might be a *slight* gain, but with 2 cats and a resonator before it, I would say it would be more for sound than performance.
Joe

Giddy!!! UPPP!!!! I love the results, and I love the sound of the modified exhaust. This afternoon, mine will be done, and I will be filming with 'SOUND' the exhaust, and getting it posted here. Corey has (1) already sold.

 

[AGR]

Priceless!!!

One thing I do know is that a stock MSP in 60 degree weather will run better than an MSP boosting 8psi with a cone filter in 90degree weather. The problem is evident, working on an efficient solution is the task at hand. I think I will opt for the CAI, front mount IC and exhaust to start the festivities.

Well there you go!!!!!! A funny thread, to be sure. (rofl)

I will tell you this: there is no way when I bought my car in January (stock) at 55 degrees, it would ''even'' come close to competing with the way it is now. NO WAY!

But; 8 psi to 9.5 psi is different + about 10 degrees warmer (as you indicate), etc...

 

[kwiktsi]

Re: Priceless!!!

Well there you go!!!!!! A funny thread, to be sure. (rofl)

I will tell you this: there is no way when I bought my car in January (stock) at 55 degrees, it would ''even'' come close to competing with the way it is now. NO WAY!

That is because of the combined boost, FP kit and removed weatherstrip.. The MSP on a hot day with stock fuel and the hot under hood temps makes no power up top, you drop the fuel a bit, open the back of the hood up to let the hot air out and now you have a better running car due to less fuel and cooler air.

Hehe- you think it runs good now, wait until it gets cooler out again .. You will probably need a FCD then though because you will probably fuel cut if you run much more than 8 psi on a cold day.
Joe

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

ARG7
Ill tell you what, drive your car hard in 80+ degree weather for 30minuts or so, then rethink what you just said and get back to me.

 

[Swerny]

Sounds like you guys took a page out of the SRT play book Greg....whaddaya think about that ??

MS MSP #143

p.s. I know....you have 4 power windows.

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

I agree with Kwiktsi, but I think the CAI and front mount IC would enhance those HP improvements even further in the heat.

 

[kwiktsi]

I agree with Kwiktsi, but I think the CAI and front mount IC would enhance those HP improvements even further in the heat.


SR what ....(wrong)

4 power windows, a limited slip and Character, thank you.

Most definately for your location.. I am keeping the stock IC, going with a slightly longer intake pipe to move the filter closer to the headlight and running a water/alky injection. Much cheaper than an FMIC setup and better gains. However, for long term, high speed driving, it can be a pain to keep full .. For me, the FMIC will come after I have nothing left to gain from the stock stuff. For you though, I think that you will benefit from an FMIC...
Joe

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

TRUE!

I may go for the injection method as well. The water bottle off the VWs are the largest Ive come across.

 

[AGR]

ARG7
Ill tell you what, drive your car hard in 80+ degree weather for 30minuts or so, then rethink what you just said and get back to me.

Please......please; It's AGR#7 (not ARG7). I'm not here to fight. 'Just posting what I have experienced. Whatever my car does, however it performs at this point, is all gravy.

I loved it before, and I love it even more now. As far as I'm concerned, everything that has been done, is an improvement. I felt no loss of power with the K&N - but I gained some throttle response, and a nice sound. The added Boost is a bonus. Remember; I'm not a racer. My mods may be done after the exhaust is finished this afternoon. With the possible exception of a modifed intake. We will see.

Now.... Let's GRIN!!!

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

ARG#7, what is the longer mandrel bent filter pipe costing you?


No fighting here, just discussing ideas.

SORRY ARG # 7 (drinks)

 

[AGR]

ARG#7, what is the longer mandrel bent filter pipe costing you?


No fighting here, just discussing ideas.

SORRY ARG # 7

(cough),,,hmmm. (ARG#7) Nothing! I don't have one. What you see in the photos is the original that MemphisRacer fabricated from a kit from AutoZone (for a Honda). He cut it to the correct length. What he is working on now, is going to be from another source. I believe he has one sold already.

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

Do I detect a bit of sensitivity?
Im not busting your chops, just discussing the topic with you. Anyhow, Ill look into the Honda kit as a alternative to the CAI.

Thanks,

 

[AGR]

Do I detect a bit of sensitivity?
Im not busting your chops, just discussing the topic with you. Anyhow, Ill look into the Honda kit as a alternative to the CAI.

Thanks,

No,,,no were cool! Actually; it's a bit fun on the dreary Monday to engage in an interesting talk. I guess; if I just had an 'extra' $250.00 lying around, I would buy the Injen. But; there's no rush. A mod here,,,,a mod there is fun. I am still waiting on a 'new' dyno sheet with the revamped Injen. Also; K&N is working on an intake, apparently. Who knows?

 

[TURBO3WAGON]

There you go! Thats what I wanted to hear. By the way revamped Injen? I havent heard anything about it. Do tell, do tell.

 

[AGR]

There you go! Thats what I wanted to here. By the way revamped Injen? I havent heard anything about it. Do tell, do tell.

Steph's (SpicyMSP) original Injen caused the car to stall at low rpms. They re-worked it - solving the problem, and I (I don't want to start a war here) remember someone saying it had probably lost a little 'uummpp' with that mod. It's mentioned on another thread here, somewhere. Is there really a difference? I have no idea. I'm liking what I hear from Joe (kwiktsi) regarding the CAI. When I see ample proof, and I'm not saying it isn't a wonderful mod, then I may consider a CAI.