Perdition

no1stunna

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perdition, whats up. i was looking at one of your post in the protege 5 forum. it appears you are a christian, if so that is awesome. i have been wondering if there were any other christians on this board. (i dont know, im a rather new guy so i havent heard too much from others yet) so where are you from. how old are you. are you in college, hs, not in school??
well anyways i just thought i would post and tell you that is awesome and i like the scripture at the bottom of the page. anyways, ill see ya around.
josh
(redp5)
 
We have t thing called Private Messaging. He will be more apt to see it if you send him a PM.:D
 
yeah thanks, i know that though. i thought i would see if others who were christians would see this and post also.
 
Why do people that believe in god and jesus separate themselves out in different groups? If they all believe in the same god, why not just be in one religion? Kinda makes you wonder where racism and segregation came from huh? No offence to anyone, just an observation I just had.
 
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I'm not saying you did. I just think it's wierd how there are baptists, christians, episcipols(sp?), church of christ, southern baptist, etc. They all believe in the same god and they all believe in Jesus Christ. I just think it's kinda dumb the way they all separate themselves into different groups. It's just like segregation. Nothing personal, just an observation.
 
its because they all have their own way of beleiving i guess you could say. one group might say it is ok to do this but then another might say no no dont do that. i agree it is weird sometimes how it works. all i know is i agree strongly with the christian group and wouldnt have it any other way. anyways, sorry if it sounded rude, didnt mean for it to.
well have a good day man.
(redp5) josh
 
big_ben said:
I'm not saying you did. I just think it's wierd how there are baptists, christians, episcipols(sp?), church of christ, southern baptist, etc. They all believe in the same god and they all believe in Jesus Christ. I just think it's kinda dumb the way they all separate themselves into different groups. It's just like segregation. Nothing personal, just an observation.
Not supposed to be like that. People did not agree on how to worship. The truth of the matter is that people got all mixed up the way they thought things should be done, and split. In accuallity, being in Christ is not about the building you go to, or the ceremonies you hold, and the way you hold them. That's all Man-Made! The truth of the matter is that that's not what God is looking at. He is looking at you heart, what's in it, and it's motives. In other words, its' not about how many "hail marys" you do, and what you think you can do to make God do anything. It's about faith, and letting him work through you. In accuallity, isn't it about what HE did in the 1st place for us? I mean, we couldn't even save ourselves, so he had to do it for us.
 
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The truth of the matter is that that's not what God is looking at. He is looking at you heart, what's in it, and it's motives. In other words, its' not about how many "hail marys" you do, and what you think you can do to make God do anything. It's about faith, and letting him work through you.
Well said. I don't realy believe in god, but I do like to see someone that can back up what they believe in with rational thoughts. I hate to hear people say stuff like "I just believe in god because I know he's true" that's just stupid. That's just going along with society like a sheep. Believing everything you are told in life like a robot. Personally, I don't believe that it matters what you believe in, as long as you have good morals and want the advancment of society as a whole instead of just advancement of yourself.
 
well said, he looks at what tree has what fruit, you have to decide what kind of fruit you have on your tree. and people get wrapped up in the worldly things, it shouldnt be like that. you shouldnt store treasures on earth where theives and robbers can vandalize and break in, or where your treasures can rust. but store treasures in heavan where theives and robbers cannot vandalize or steal and rust cannot harm. (i dont know that verse completely, but i think you should get the point) and onle last thing, we should ask god what we can do for him, not what he can do for us. thanks for all the replies, and by the way, what is everyone that has posted so far.
(baptist,christian,methodist,even athiast)
(redp5)josh
 
big ben, can i ask why you dont beleive? if you dont want to share then dont by any means, but if it doesnt bother you then please share, i am interested to hear. well until next time see ya guys.
 
I usually don't like to get into it because from my experience, most people with faith usually get pissed at anyone who doesn't believe in a creator. Most are so close-minded that they don't even want to hear you out, theyjust reject your opinions.

Also lots of people that believe say that if you don't believe in god it's because of the way you were raised. I was raised as a baptist. Everyone in my family believes in god. I'm the only "black sheep". Actually only my parents know that I question the existance of a creator. It's none of the rest of my family's business. It just spawns arguements.

I'm not really an athiest, I'm more agnostic than anything else. I say that there is not enough proof to say there is a creator, but there is also not enough proof to say there isn't a creator. I lean towards tha idea that there isn't though. I believe that there is some proof both ways, but there is more proof that there isn't a creator in my view. I am a scientific minded person. Things have to be proven to me for me to accept them. There are so many fabled gods that it makes me believe that what is so different about the old and new testiment. I think it is very concieted to say that the newest religion of christianity is better and more valid than the polytheistic beliefs of the indians and of the ancient greeks. What makes christianity so special that makes it true and not the others? I do believe that the bible is a very valid part of history that gives the majority of the people in the world a reason to be moraly good. But to be moraly good only because you are afraid to go to hell is a very poor excuse. I am moraly good because I was tought good morals by my parents. I wan't my kids to have the same oportunities that I had and I want the advancement of mankind to continue. Not because I wan't to go to heaven. But I am not omnipotent so I will never know the existance of a creator until he or she or whatever it is reveals it's self to me. People that say I will go to hell for saying that are hypocrates. If your God created me with a brain to produce rational thought, I'm sure he thought there might be a time when I would question his existance. And at this point in my life, I believe that it is an irrational idea that there is a supreme creator. But that is just my belief, end everyone is entitled to their beliefs. That's why I have never said that someone that believes in God is stupid for doing so. Their god may have revieled himself to them or they must have a reason to believe in him. But I hope it's not just because they grew up believing in god. I didn't become agnostic until I was about 20 years old. Until then I had always believed in god.
 
big_ben said:
I usually don't like to get into it because from my experience, most people with faith usually get pissed at anyone who doesn't believe in a creator. Most are so close-minded that they don't even want to hear you out, theyjust reject your opinions.

Also lots of people that believe say that if you don't believe in god it's because of the way you were raised. I was raised as a baptist. Everyone in my family believes in god. I'm the only "black sheep". Actually only my parents know that I question the existance of a creator. It's none of the rest of my family's business. It just spawns arguements.

I'm not really an athiest, I'm more agnostic than anything else. I say that there is not enough proof to say there is a creator, but there is also not enough proof to say there isn't a creator. I lean towards tha idea that there isn't though. I believe that there is some proof both ways, but there is more proof that there isn't a creator in my view. I am a scientific minded person. Things have to be proven to me for me to accept them. There are so many fabled gods that it makes me believe that what is so different about the old and new testiment. I think it is very concieted to say that the newest religion of christianity is better and more valid than the polytheistic beliefs of the indians and of the ancient greeks. What makes christianity so special that makes it true and not the others? I do believe that the bible is a very valid part of history that gives the majority of the people in the world a reason to be moraly good. But to be moraly good only because you are afraid to go to hell is a very poor excuse. I am moraly good because I was tought good morals by my parents. I wan't my kids to have the same oportunities that I had and I want the advancement of mankind to continue. Not because I wan't to go to heaven. But I am not omnipotent so I will never know the existance of a creator until he or she or whatever it is reveals it's self to me. People that say I will go to hell for saying that are hypocrates. If your God created me with a brain to produce rational thought, I'm sure he thought there might be a time when I would question his existance. And at this point in my life, I believe that it is an irrational idea that there is a supreme creator. But that is just my belief, end everyone is entitled to their beliefs. That's why I have never said that someone that believes in God is stupid for doing so. Their god may have revieled himself to them or they must have a reason to believe in him. But I hope it's not just because they grew up believing in god. I didn't become agnostic until I was about 20 years old. Until then I had always believed in god.

Ben, if it is the truth you are looking for, it will find you! That's the cool thing about it! (thumb)
 
Ben, if it is the truth you are looking for, it will find you! That's the cool thing about it!
Yep, and that doesn't require the belief in a god to do so. What ever makes you as good as you can be is the best thing for you. If thats church for some people, more power to you. For me, it's science and physics.
 
I do believe that the bible is a very valid part of history that gives the majority of the people in the world a reason to be moraly good. But to be moraly good only because you are afraid to go to hell is a very poor excuse.

Damn right! That is a poor excuse! That has to do with Fear! Fear of what? Punishment! How can one have a valid relationship with Christ/God if they are walking around afraid of him!? They CAN'T! Being in Christ is about comming to grips with what LOVE really is! Love is what casts out fear. I used to live afraid that the Lord was gonna "get" me for years until one day I found out who he really was, and that that is not what he is about.
 
That is why any time I hear someone say they are a "god fearing person" they lose all of my respect as a rational thinking person. Why would you put so much faith into something that you fear? If you do believe in god, you should not fear him.
 
big ben, when you said you are a scientific kind of thinker. Have you heard of kent hovind? i think that is how you spell it. (i had never heard of him until this semester when we watched some of his tapes in my bible study) kent has been a high school teacher all of his life and in his many videos he pretty much shows how science proves creationism and disproves the sonic boom theory. i think these tapes would help in some of your reasoning. if you wanted i could probably even copy some of the tapes and mail them to you if you were interested.
and thanks for not going ape crap on this subject, a lot of people take this subject and get all mad and get really pissy. so big ben and linux, i want to say thank you.
and i think linux said it best, if it is the truth you are looking for, it will come to you.
 
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