Misfiring Engine

Blake D

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2003.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
i keep getting a P300 code being a random misfire detected. does it randomly usually when cruising. put 2 sets of plugs and wires and still have this problem. it didnt start till i put the first set of plugs in. thought it might have been them because they where iridium plugs and just cheap wires. changed plugs and wires with NGK BKR7E and NGK wires. this problem keeps getting worse. i dont want to just keep throwing money at this to try to fix the problem. thought maybe the gap was to close but .028 gap. maybe coil pack going bad but how do you check? i just dont want to buy coil packs and still have this problem.
 
had the same thing happen to me, replaced plugs, wires, and coil packs. Still have p0300. Just ordered canadian egr valve since the ecu misreads a bad egr as a random misfire, according to The Man.
 
well it cant be that because it just feels like you pulled the plug wire off and just misses i can tell it missing before the computer finds it. but it says its random.
 
Yeah most places will not accept returns on coil packs. Once you buy them and open the box, theyre yours whether you need them or not. So beware before you drop the money on them. Heres a link about P0300. might find some useful info for your specific case..
http://www.obd-codes.com/p0300
 
wound up being a coil pack. it finally got bad enough that it wouldn't run after i shut it off and back on. just on 2 cylinders.
 
nice, well at least you were able to fix yours. My egr comes friday with motor mounts
 
just had the same problem. A friends shop 'tested' the coils and said they 'passed', but it kept happening after the plugs and wire replacement i put in...was extremely intermittent, and seemed to be related to outside temp (happened more often in colder weather...almost never happened all summer)...I then read that a lot of shop tests on coils are pointless, as coils will go into death throws were they work temporarily, flip out, then work again...rather than just going from fine to destroyed in one easy step..........

bought the BA replacements from parts geek for $85 shipped or so...been running perfectly ever since.

from what i've seen with P0300 codes related to EGR problems...its a far more subtle missing. A bad coil results in the car being totally undriveable when it happens. Will barely rev, and will immediately stall when trying to apply load to the engine. EGRs getting stuck or clogged can cause a random cylinder code also, but its often just a single cylinder and for a very brief time (only long enough to trip the code, never leave it flashing like i had)...this is often mixed with 'hot idle' problems, where a hot engine will stall or lump down to 100 rpm off throttle as the EGR is stuck open when it shouldn't be.

the best part though...a bad coil can and usually will screw up the EGR valve haha. The unburned fuel will get plumbed through the EGR system and clog up the EGR valve/solenoid pretty quickly. It can also immediately destroy the primary catalyst by dumping raw gasoline into it, which will catch on fire briefly and weld the entire thing shut. I've seen that on a friends Honda Fit, where a bad short from a botched piggy-back installation fried a coil...and after less than a minute of idling with the miss the primary catalyst was white hot...not good...I lucked out as i have a mazdaspeed header and no longer have a primary catalyst because of it, the secondary being too far away to have the same problem.

so just pointing out for future owners with the infamous P0300...it can be a total b**** to locate whats causing it, but don't mess around with it...most parts to remedy the problem are less than $100...but if you manage to destroy a cat and live in a emission regulated area...you're quickly going to approach $1000+ before your next inspection...
 
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