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[RyanJayG]

seeing as you have a 2003 there is a very good chance you do

 

[acidbug]

Uh Oh..damn 2002...i alwazy thought my 1st-2nd shift was worst than a couple of other protege/p5's/msp i have driven..

Chas

 

[lasermp5]

w00t! 03 represent!!!

 

[Installshield 2]

Great info man...and this sucks...

 

[ddogg777]

It's a good thing I bought a 2003.5 MSP tranny to swap into my P5....WOO WOO!!

 

[toucci]

thanks for the good news! (hippy)

 

[BlkZoomZoom]

I have a feeling some people hate me and some people love me for this info.

 

[mp5jeff]

rofl...i thinkeveryone should appreciate it, because now they know which tranny they have, and the "limits" per say...

 

[Installshield 2]

Well I be staying NA, and the built engine makes just around 155lb/ft measured at the flywheel...so I am not worried about snapping it from torque alone...but 90% of the boxes that popped were in more or less stock proteges...

oh well...Just another excuse to build a dog box...

 

[TurfBurn]

Good thing I plan on having an extra tranny around... guess we'll see how long an 01 tranny lasts on 400 hp

But having ordered the newer parts for my tranny the difference in the synchros and the forks are damn near negligible. I can't see the gears being different themselves as they ratios are the same so how you would you judge the appearance of those??? I'm not doubting, just asking. Too many threads have been started about differences in trannies to later find out there was NO difference at all. I know the 1-2 fork is different, but there is no difference on the 3-4 fork. The synchros don't appear any different either unless they are stress relieved. Otherwise they look identical...

EDIT: Placing part numbers in my posts to make them easier to find:
Synchros: GC011726Y
Speedo Gear: G501-17-341A
LockNuts: F520-17-628 and F521-17-628A
Oil Seals: F003-27-238B
Bearings: G5R0-27-350B
LSD: GS01-27-190A
Forks: G501-17-40YA and GC01-17-40XA

Keywords: Tranny part numbers synchro bearing number transmission upgrade MSP LSD

 

[TurfBurn]

I also don't believe ANYONE has spun a shaft or stripped a gear other than a couple gears being stripped by the WC cars.

Axles will matter more before the tranny I think... But watch me eat my words this summer .

 

[Captain KRM P5]

the transmission from the four cylinder 626 will bolt in and supposedly has much tougher innards than ours does

 

[TurfBurn]

The MP3's have the G5M-R transmission... the Protege's and MSP's are all supposed to have the G15M transmission... SO... which tranny is in the 626? I was under the impression that they had the G5M transmission...

And did I mention NO ONE has spun a shaft or shorn a gear yet? LOL.

 

[TurfBurn]

Just checked it. Found specs on the 2002 626 with the 2.0L motor in it... G5M 5 speed.. same as the MP3 has.

 

[Captain KRM P5]

Just checked it. Found specs on the 2002 626 with the 2.0L motor in it... G5M 5 speed.. same as the MP3 has.

supposedly the forks and synchros are of stronger stuff than what our wee lil rides have to them

 

[TurfBurn]

supposedly the forks and synchros are of stronger stuff than what our wee lil rides have to them

I have a set of the new forks in my garage. They are revised... but NOT in the area where they break... so unless it is changing the loading on the fork it won't do anything for the types of breakage we have seen on these forums.

I've seen the synchros as well first hand. Compared them right next to each other.. no difference visible between the "revised" synchro and the old ones. Same number of teeth, same tooth size, same shoulder height etc... no visible difference. I have my tranny out and sitting on my garage floor right now. So I can tear it down and compare it all again for you guys if you want.

But the one weird thing is that the MP3's have a G5M-R tranny in them, but the other protege's have a G15. Saw it stamped right on my tranny that it was different, and on Little Beavis's too... both of us have G5M-R stamps on our trannies.

 

[wagonwhatmp5]

my car was manufactured in late 02 and i have the auto stick does tht mena i have no chnce of have the good tranny ? does it only go for 5 spds?

 

[TurfBurn]

we are discussing the 5 spds... the autos have different issues . So you are safe on what we are talking about... totally different type of gearing in the autos.

 

[TXMazdaSpeeder]

lol all us mp3'ers are.... but never fear, I have plans. first I got to source a second tranny.... so it might as well be a 2003 model

to bad mazda put a 04 p5 tranny in mine (second)

 

[twilightprotege]

what the difference between the G5M and the G15M?