Which Intake To Get?

[flik815]

Im looking into different intake brands and i dont know which to get. Short Ram? Cold Air?.. i know that short ram will give me better turbo response but wich will put the most noticable HP to the ground that ill be able to feel. im lookin at either Injen Or AEM.​

 

[mikeski]

injen is most preferred.

 

[dragonballspeed]

Don't waste your money, get a high flow 3" filter and put it on the end of the MAS airflow sensor. Perfect fit and sounds great.

 

[mikeski]

Don't waste your money, get a high flow 3" filter and put it on the end of the MAS airflow sensor. Perfect fit and sounds great.

this is true also, this is what i run.

 

[jeffmsp]

Don't waste your money, get a high flow 3" filter and put it on the end of the MAS airflow sensor. Perfect fit and sounds great.

thats the worst idea you could possibly do. absolute worst. even a stock box and filter is better. seriously.


either get a k and n drop in replacement or if you have some coin get any cold air intake made for the car. aem, injen etc.

 

[dragonballspeed]

Well you may not agree, but I've run that way for a couple of years with NO issues at all & actually having it feeding directly to the turbo. To take that a bit further, if you have a FMIC you could make an intake for about for a fraction of what one cost. I'm not trying to start a flame, so just take it for what its worth. Some will agree, some will dissagree & some people just make parts instead of buying off the shelf. That is what separates the bolt-on modders from the fabricators.

 

[jeffmsp]

the laws of compression state that when air is compressed it heats up. If you have a lower initial temperature then you will have a lower compressed temperature.

as you can see it is not a great idea to stick a big dumb 3" cone filter right behind your radiator fan. place the filter in the coolest area possible. IE the fender.

even the stock little elbow on the stock airbox creates a noticable difference in intake temps, thats why its there.

if ya want i can even give you the equation to work out how much even a 20 degree difference in intake temp makes on the temperature of the compressed air coming out of the turbocharger. not to mention the timing that gets pulled via iat sensor from having a warm air intake. it literally downgrades your car lol not to mention the increased resistance to detonation etc.

 

[jeffmsp]

anf fyi ive had the cone only mod, a sri, a cai and a drop in k and n with stock box. only two that actually improve the performance of the car are the drop in filter with stock box and callaway elbow and the cai. ive data logged with all 4 setups, trust me get cai.

 

[flik815]

Don't waste your money, get a high flow 3" filter and put it on the end of the MAS airflow sensor. Perfect fit and sounds great.

Yea i was thinking about doing that to begin with but what is that other sensor that plugs into the stock air box? if its not plugged in it throws the Check light. how would i plug that into the 3" filter?

 

[ForceFed]

I disagree with you jeffMSP...but I dont feel like discussing it either.
To each his own.

 

[hollar1211]

Yea i was thinking about doing that to begin with but what is that other sensor that plugs into the stock air box? if its not plugged in it throws the Check light. how would i plug that into the 3" filter?

That's the intake temperature sensor. You should be able to drill a hole in the end of the filter that attaches to the maf and plug it in there. I think.

 

[69RMSP]

regardless, the gains/losses of an intake are minimal.

 

[MSP 2731]

Very minimal other than more/less noise. I do like the sound of more air being sucked in but my butt dyno couldn't feel a difference after I had my Injen CAI put in. A intake is certainly not worth the price they charge brand new in my opinion. If I could do it again I would just pick a used one up.

 

[jeffmsp]

I disagree with you jeffMSP...but I dont feel like discussing it either.

you can disagree with me but you cant disagree with science.

T_final = T_initial * (P_final/P_initial)^0.2857

Where P is absolute pressure, T is temperature measured in Kelvin, Initial = pre-turbo, and Final = post-turbo.

but hey if bells and whistles is all your going for then grab a sri.

regardless, the gains/losses of an intake are minimal.

its more about adding detonation resistance. the intake itself doesnt give you massive gains, but just like when you add a larger intercooler, with tuning you can take advantage of the increased detonation resistance and run more aggressive a/fs and timing.

ever wonder how much a 20 degree increase in temperature effects the required octane level of an engine? ever measure the temperature behind your radiator on a hot summer day vs the temperature in your fenderwell? didnt think so.

 

[Noel]

you can disagree with me but you cant disagree with science.

T_final = T_initial * (P_final/P_initial)^0.2857

Where P is absolute pressure, T is temperature measured in Kelvin, Initial = pre-turbo, and Final = post-turbo.

but hey if bells and whistles is all your going for then grab a sri.



its more about adding detonation resistance. the intake itself doesnt give you massive gains, but just like when you add a larger intercooler, with tuning you can take advantage of the increased detonation resistance and run more aggressive a/fs and timing.

ever wonder how much a 20 degree increase in temperature effects the required octane level of an engine? ever measure the temperature behind your radiator on a hot summer day vs the temperature in your fenderwell? didnt think so.

well said

 

[low_psi]

I run a K&N drop in, the stock intake is adequate IMO.