Stormtrooper77
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Yashooa: What are your mods?
Whats going on with all the problems?
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32000 miles, have been boosting 11-12 psi since about 5000 miles. I was worried before about mazda trolls so I kept it secret, but my warranty is long out the window now. Also ran it for a couple days awhile back at 14 psi with some 93 octane plus xylene, still pulls strong. Just be smart with your mods and driving style
. I have a chunk of change just waiting for the engine to blow,(or for the AEM EMS to come out, or both.)
. I have a chunk of change just waiting for the engine to blow,(or for the AEM EMS to come out, or both.)
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A Little Joey P MBC and thats it. Well I do run Mobil 1 with WIX filters but that's hardly a modStormtrooper77 said:
I am very careful about how I get into the boost. I do not floor it way down low in 4th or 5th and let it get into boost. I do boost hard in 5th if I am going 70MPH but it is a smooth throttle roll not a vicious jab at the gas.
I usually hit the boost hard in the first three gears.
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Proving even more what I said LAST YEAR!! It is driving style that will keep these cars together. Too many people think they are driving a race car and boost in 5th for top end pulls, wind the snot out of it and lift instantly- throwing a rod while doing so, etc. It has been discussed several times in the past. Some people believed it, others didn't. Some people have gotten away with boost and such for 48k miles- others haven't .
Joe
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yashooa said:A Little Joey P MBC and thats it. Well I do run Mobil 1 with WIX filters but that's hardly a mod
I am very careful about how I get into the boost. I do not floor it way down low in 4th or 5th and let it get into boost. I do boost hard in 5th if I am going 70MPH but it is a smooth throttle roll not a vicious jab at the gas.
I usually hit the boost hard in the first three gears.
Best car for the money. Driving habits, people with no idea what they are doing just throwing stuff on in random order, and people who just pushed the limits and knew the risk are the reason there is blown motors. Both MSPs I have owned have been very reliable. People blow their sub because they listen to music too loud. It is an economical sub that is great for a stock system. The car is tuned for 6-7 psi. Changing the boost without properly retarding the timing at certain RPM and getting the proper A/F ratio is asking for trouble. I will completely rebuild my engine and have engine management before I even think of raising the boost. I might be over cautious, but I doubt I will blow my engine and in the end will come out with large HP and torque #s.
FrozenMazda
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I agree that there are a lot of little things that are wrong with the car. Having the reflash, the Klunk, subs blowing, body parts falling off, now warped turbo manifolds (me), severe engine thrash,... shall I keep going?dbacksfan said:
You have to remember that this was Mazda's first run at something like this. Just like any new car or redesign that comes out, there will be lots of bugs that need to be fixed.
I was lucky enough to drive a Mazdaspeed MX-5 for a weekend and I can tell you they definitely took a lot of the problems to heart. For one, I don't think it's assembled in the ports, the stereo is a stock Bose system, there were no crazy noises coming from the suspension when I throttled it, and I didn't feel any hesitation whatsoever.
If this is the sign of things to come, I'm seriously looking forward to the Mazdaspeed RX-8 and Mazdaspeed 6.
Yes and no- it is a MAF based car- not a speed density system- the ECU sees the increased airflow and makes timing/fueling changes as necessary- to an extent- that is why you are partially correctjurgs01 said:
. If it were a speed density system, it would still see boost increases, but with additions like intake work, exhaust, etc- it would not see the increased airflow that these mods would give and you seriously run a chance of leaning out (like the 3rd gen 7's). Several MSP's have been wide band tested at 10-11 psi and are still insanely rich- I am not familiar with the most recent flash though, so things may have changed. With the proper "supporting mods"- exhaust, colder plugs and good intake setup, the MSP could handle 10-11 psi for quite a while with no issues at all assuming good gas (I prefer Sunoco Ultra 94 when available) is used and the car is driven accordingly. Look at Yash- he is an example. It is not that he is "lucky" or his time is never coming, but he knows how to drive for his setup and has 48k on his car!!!Joe
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- Hemi Ram, 71 Plymth Scamp, 71 Plymth Duster 340, 69 Dart 340/4sp
I've run over 300 1/4 mile passes and have only broken the lsd.
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- Hemi Ram, 71 Plymth Scamp, 71 Plymth Duster 340, 69 Dart 340/4sp
yeah how sad that really sounds too.....Man I wish the dealership would pay for tools lol.
Glowmunkey
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Hey Joe, what Sunocos still have the 94?? All the ones by me got rid of it, and only carry 87, 89, 91 and 93...kwiktsi said:
Really? It has been over a year since I got it last, but I believe it was not a problem at almost any one I went to from what I remember. I know there were always some here and there that didn't have it, but I know I used to find it failry easily in Albany. Maybe Central ave somewhere?Joe
Glowmunkey said:
Isn't it sickening how fast it adds up!?!?!?! That is actually "cheap" compared to some of the Snap On boxes and such!!! Huge $$$ for tool boxes alone, then you got the cost of the tools to add in there!! Lol- that's why my box came from Lowes haha.
Joe
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Werd Joey...kwiktsi said:
I know where most of the motors have went and I avoid that place like the plauge. It would seem from reading this forum from about the time the MSP came on the scene (Feb03) that the most common time for a over boosted MSP to go is in 5th gear, at low RPM, under load, above 10PSI and possibly with extra weight. Except that one dumb Ho who had the UDP, a brand new motor with 4 people in the car, and mucho boost. Can you say "DUMBASS?" (cryhard)
At least three motors have hairy-kairied under alomost the exact same conditions one of which did not post the death on here and I happen to catch it in the chat room. Do not go over 10PSI in 5th, at WOT, from a low RPM. If you do then you may have a dramtic change in your Rods relationship to the block
I do boost in 5th but I do it calmly and easily and yes I pass in 5th but 3rd gear downshifts at 12PSI going 70mph are much more entertaining. I can roll on the throttle at 70MPH in 5th and go to 90MPH in short order but again the RPMs are up and I can see the 60mm boost gauge just inches from my eyes.
I know exactly how much boost is being applied to my motor at all times. You get a good feel for the car, the boost, the RPM, the amount of throttle, etc.
Just boost smart, be smart, drive smart.
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Up in malta on rt.9 a Mobil station has cam2 (100 octane).....smells soo good........drool.
Yup. Lol- an employer of mine years ago just bought one of those "new" at the time "corvette" boxes. It was like a baby blue with corvette logos and such. Big $$$- he started dicking over with pay and such and one day working on a car, an 8" long 1/2" extension and socket got stuck on a bolt I was trying to get off. When I looked up to see where it was, it fell off and cracked me under the eye, splitting the skin nicely- I LOST it and went on a rampage and my first target was his box- kicked it over from the back and walked out taking other misc. items out on my way (fans, etc.) . The cut was the final straw lol. I still have the scar from that one. Scumbag. He ended up screwing everyone over and closing the doors one day taking all the tools and all with him- screwed Snap-On royally also. Even worse, I found out he talked his girlfriend at the time into putting everything in her name when he opened up and screwed her over also. Damn, she was hot too- and bi from what I heard 
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. The cut was the final straw lol. I still have the scar from that one. Scumbag. He ended up screwing everyone over and closing the doors one day taking all the tools and all with him- screwed Snap-On royally also. Even worse, I found out he talked his girlfriend at the time into putting everything in her name when he opened up and screwed her over also. Damn, she was hot too- and bi from what I heard ..Joe
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The perfect women...Bisexual, hot, and stupid (thumb)kwiktsi said:Yup. Lol- an employer of mine years ago just bought one of those "new" at the time "corvette" boxes. It was like a baby blue with corvette logos and such. Big $$$- he started dicking over with pay and such and one day working on a car, an 8" long 1/2" extension and socket got stuck on a bolt I was trying to get off. When I looked up to see where it was, it fell off and cracked me under the eye, splitting the skin nicely- I LOST it and went on a rampage and my first target was his box- kicked it over from the back and walked out taking other misc. items out on my way (fans, etc.)
Joe
Too bad I was so stupidly hung up on someone at the time that I didn't think to take advantage of the time I went by to pick her up and take her somewhere (she lost her car from all this too) and she answered the door topless. Man, looking back- I must have been blind to miss some of the things I did. Remembering the look on her face now that I am thinking about it- maybe it was more stupidity than blindness. I now know that look means "you're in" .
Joe
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