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- 2008 Mazda5 GT
I don't see the idiot light on my dash. I hope and would be glad if I don't have it. i'll take a real-time TPMS monitor but muchrather not want the complications just for an idiot light.
What year did TPMS become standard on the Mazda5
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The Firestone recall in the United States in the late 1990s, which was linked to more than 100 deaths from rollovers following a tire tread-separation, pushed the Clinton administration to publish the TREAD Act. This act mandated the use of a suitable TPMS technology in order to alert drivers of a severe under-inflation condition of their tires. This act affects all light motor vehicles (under 10,000 pounds) sold after September 1, 2007.
So anything sold after 9/1/07 required TPMS.
So anything sold after 9/1/07 required TPMS.
In the olden days (something like 1995 or so) we used to mediate the problem with a $.89 tire gauge and free air from the Chevron station.
I don't see this electronic nanny doing anything more than degrading the knowledge one is supposed to have of his/her car. Owning something comes with the responsibility to maintain it. If that is too difficult, there are buses, taxis and for-hire coaches out there.
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othercarasaab
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I'm with you thaxman, but that's part of the reason cars are getting expensive... isn't TCS going to be mandated now, too? Starting 2012 or so?
It's the continued effort to ensure that people don't have to know anything about cars to own and use one - because they are an appliance after all, right? People don't need to know anything other than gas, brake, and steer *dripping sarcasm*.
It's unfortunate, partly because the best piece of safety gear in the entire car should still be the brain getting in behind the wheel, and it seems to me like all of these nanny gadgets take away from that responsibility and mental engagement. I guess you have to keep making more car gadgets to overcome the cell phones and other distractions people are introducing into the driving scenario? - as opposed to just focusing on what you're doing...sigh.
I personally call it Toyotification: the turning of cars into transportation appliances.
It's the continued effort to ensure that people don't have to know anything about cars to own and use one - because they are an appliance after all, right? People don't need to know anything other than gas, brake, and steer *dripping sarcasm*.
It's unfortunate, partly because the best piece of safety gear in the entire car should still be the brain getting in behind the wheel, and it seems to me like all of these nanny gadgets take away from that responsibility and mental engagement. I guess you have to keep making more car gadgets to overcome the cell phones and other distractions people are introducing into the driving scenario? - as opposed to just focusing on what you're doing...sigh.
I personally call it Toyotification: the turning of cars into transportation appliances.
Short answer: 2008
Long answer:
2006: TPMS not available
2007: TPMS not available on the Sport. TPMS available on Touring and Grand Touring with Navigation (it was a bundle).
2008: TPMS standard on all Mazda5s.
even with the mazda system, you still need to regularly check your tire pressure. the only thing the system does if tell you if you suddenly get a flat tire, or if the sensor is bad. it does not transmit the pressure of each tire.
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At work we have to check/reset TPMS on anything 2006 and newer, so far all that Ive dealt with have had it
rodslinger
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At one point I would have agreed with this and do check my tire pressure at least weekly. But after having the TPMS go off on two occasions in the past five years on trips due to picking up a nail or something else saved me a lot of hassle. Checking pressure regularly won't stop you from picking up a nail driving down the road and losing air pressure. Getting that notice early can mean the difference between pulling off and getting the spare on before damage is done to the tire/wheel or continue driving and not realize the tire is flat until after you have alredy overheated the sidewall and destroyed the tire.
Personally I'd much rather pay $15 for a flat repair VS $175 for another tire.....
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But the cost of the TPMS is passed on to the new car buyer and I'm sure the cost is around $300 or $400 (price per tire for TPMS sensor alone, from www.tirerack.com, is $90).
While TPMS could save at tire, it would have to save three or four over the life of the car to justify the cost and I don't see that happening.
I'm not a fan of TPMS. I'm not an opponent either, it is what it is. It did detect a flat for me right after I bought the Mazda5 - I had rubbed up against the curb and had punctured the tire. The Mazda5 didn't drive much differently and the TPMS may or may not have saved the rim, which is worth something I guess.
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I looked hard and now see the light, aw shucks. Actually I had to look at the manual to see where the light was. Now I have to do deal with the TPMS sensor on aftermarket rim.
rodslinger
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Fair enough. But MFG cost is signifigantly less than end user retail pricing. Looking at the components involved I'm guessing Mazda's actual material cost is under $100 for everything. Wouldn't be suprised if it was under $40.
As an example. Those gas pressurized hatch struts that everyone complains about pricing at or around $70 each? At work we used to order nearly identical units (1" shorter) directly from Suspa. Of course we ordered 10k units a year but they only cost $6 each at that volume.
Expect Mazda has better discounts than us for sure.
I wouldn't expect the TPMS sensors alone to eat up nearly 2% of the vehicle manufacturing cost.
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Damn you (not you personally DKaz, but Mazda Canada). You get to have your cake and eat it too (manual on upper trim).
Heat and rodslinger - I think you two are saying the same thing. It cost manufacturers next to nothing but the cost passed to the consumer is a lot more. No worries, just capitalism at work.
You're right, the additional cost to the base price of the car would be minimal. These invoice prices are for the base Mazda5 Sport, with manual transmission:
2006 Sport: Invoice = $16,326
2007 Sport: Invoice = $16,606
2008 Sport: Invoice = $16,849
2009 Sport: Invoice = $16,865
(source = Yahoo Autos: http://autos.yahoo.com/mazda/mazda5/2008/sport/ (change the year in the URL to see other years))
That's a $243 increase between '07 and '08, but besides adding TPMS there are some armrests, the auxilliary input for the radio, updated dash lights, and automatic climate control.
I just wish TPMS was cheaper for aftermarket rims, $90 per rim when I'm only spending $100 for the rim itself seems high. Maybe its just that tirerack has a high profit margin on TPMS and other places are cheaper, I don't know.
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mazdadude
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Yes, this is correct... Also you can look at the valve stem on the tire. If it is a METAL Valve stem, you have TPMS.
