Sorry, mistyped. I meant 5% and 1%. We have the Citi cashback card.slug420 said:3% is the most any credit card gives you in rewards?
do the rewards go farther in the form of frequent flyer miles?
Sorry, mistyped. I meant 5% and 1%. We have the Citi cashback card.slug420 said:3% is the most any credit card gives you in rewards?
do the rewards go farther in the form of frequent flyer miles?
I've had a credit card for over 4 years now, and I've never missed a payment. The interest rate couldn't mean less to me, it might as well not be there. I know the possibility of me not being able to pay it very real, but I'd rather not live my life preparing for the worst. Give me rewards. I'm smart enough to take advantage of the credit card companies, not the other way around. I've got a cashback US Bank card now, and a credit card from my local hillbilly bank where I used to live. I've switched to purchasing everying with my US bank card. It just makes sense to me. You have to be disciplined though, so don't get a credit/rewards card without knowing what you're doing and being prepared to use it responsibly. If you're smart, you can screw the credit card companies.scorch70 said:My advice is to not worry about cash back or rewards. No one gives you anything for free in the credit world, so you pay a higher interest rate for these cards that give you "something" back. They are really screwing you by charging you a higher interest rate.
And remember, no matter how good you are at paying bills on time, one day you will go a month or two or twelve where you cant pay the entire balance off at the end of the month. This is when you will be glad you got a lower interest rate card instead of one that gives you "rewards." That s*** is mostly a scam, just like extended warranties at Worst Buy.
You are exactly right. Only FOOLS get a credit card as a way of actually borrowing money. If you don't pay your balance off every money you ARE getting screwed, regardless of which card you have. On top of that, the interest rate is even MORE meaningless when you consider that the bank can change the rate any time they want and basically ALL of them do. I got a yahoo credit card a few years back because it advertised "7.9APR for the life of the card" -- well, about 12 months after getting it they jacked the rate up to 16.99%. So a lot of good that 7.9% rate did me. That's just ONE example of how they all operate.Mach 3.5 Turbo said:I've had a credit card for over 4 years now, and I've never missed a payment. The interest rate couldn't mean less to me, it might as well not be there. I know the possibility of me not being able to pay it very real, but I'd rather not live my life preparing for the worst. Give me rewards. I'm smart enough to take advantage of the credit card companies, not the other way around. I've got a cashback US Bank card now, and a credit card from my local hillbilly bank where I used to live. I've switched to purchasing everying with my US bank card. It just makes sense to me. You have to be disciplined though, so don't get a credit/rewards card without knowing what you're doing and being prepared to use it responsibly. If you're smart, you can screw the credit card companies.
For the people who said not to get a credit card at all, I'd like to see how you plan on buying a house in a few years. Did you have to get a cosigner on your car loan? I'd rather not risk someone else's credit in case something happens to me. The only way to build credit is to use credit wisely. Granted, if you're an irresonsible spend-happy person maybe you shouldn't get a credit card. If you have a dab or two of common sense, get one or two and use them as much as you can. When I went to buy my car last year (at age 20), I was approved for up to a $37,000 car with no cosigners or any strings attached. In a few years, I'll be able to buy a house myself without risking my parents on the loan. The trick is to you use your credit to the limit, but never to cross it.
Haha and I can see you're also smart enough to realize that you're not screwing the credit card companies even when you pay all your bills on time (sarcasm)....they make money from your purchases no matter what....you aren't screwing them. Please dont run for president haha.Mach 3.5 Turbo said:If you're smart, you can screw the credit card companies.
My thoughts exactly. No one gets one over on the credit card companies. They are getting money everytime you use the CC. They would not do business with you unless they KNEW they could make money. Yes, they are making less than they would like if you pay your balances off every month. But they are still getting their cut.DaViper said:Haha and I can see you're also smart enough to realize that you're not screwing the credit card companies even when you pay all your bills on time (sarcasm)....they make money from your purchases no matter what....you aren't screwing them. Please dont run for president haha.
-DaViper
DaViper said:Haha and I can see you're also smart enough to realize that you're not screwing the credit card companies even when you pay all your bills on time (sarcasm)....they make money from your purchases no matter what....you aren't screwing them. Please dont run for president haha.
-DaViper
Yea but the credit card companies get a percentage of the money from all your purchases....they CAN'T lose money. I'm not sure what they charge a store when you buy something there, but it's probably somewhere around 3% or 4% (maybe more?). If they offer you 1% or 2% cashback they're still making 1% or 2% of your purchase each time you buy something.....but yea they do make most their money off the interest when people don't pay off their balances. Haha I really dont think you're even screwing anyone...more like the credit card companies screw all of us because they're technically making less money go to the stores we buy from (which I would imagine increases their prices).Mach 3.5 Turbo said:(gtfo)
Hey, I haven't paid a credit card company a damn cent. Someone always pays, and with the case of credit card companies it's the guys who hold a balance each month. Think about it, if just one in ten people carry a 16% interest rate on their stuff, and they pay out a 1% cash back to those who never carry a balance, they still gain 6% from that one irresponsible guy. That's being pretty generous too, I bet about a third or better carry a balance each month. They are relying on the numbers working in their favor, and they always do, so they win. So I guess you're right, I'm not screwing the credit card company. I'm screwing the poor suckers that owe them half their paycheck each week. It's all the same to me. I haven't paid anyone a dime, I've used a super convenient service, and they pay me to use it. I'd say I'm making out pretty well. Mach for president in 08!!
Sounds about right, we're all getting screwed to some extent. The way I look at it though, I don't pay any more when I use a credit card than the next guy who uses cash. I get a little back each month, so I win. Everywhere I shop uses credit cards, so since everything costs the same either way, I might as well use my convenient plastic and get some of it back. I'm a big advocate for credit card usage, just never hold a balance. You're right, I'm probably not screwing anyone, but I'm ahead of the pack.DaViper said:Yea but the credit card companies get a percentage of the money from all your purchases....they CAN'T lose money. I'm not sure what they charge a store when you buy something there, but it's probably somewhere around 3% or 4% (maybe more?). If they offer you 1% or 2% cashback they're still making 1% or 2% of your purchase each time you buy something.....but yea they do make most their money off the interest when people don't pay off their balances. Haha I really dont think you're even screwing anyone...more like the credit card companies screw all of us because they're technically making less money go to the stores we buy from (which I would imagine increases their prices).
-DaViper
Close, the fees that merchants pay for credit card usage are about 1-1.5% for Visa and Master Card and 3% for American Express. Visa and Master Card will return the transaction fee if the product is returned but American Express will not, so even if you return something that you bought on AMEX the vender still has to pay AMEX the 3% of the purchase price. This is why a lot of places do not like to accept AMEX. We do at my work but we let people know that if they return something that it will cost them that 3% and since almost everyone who has and AMEX has both MC and Visa it's usually not a problem.DaViper said:Yea but the credit card companies get a percentage of the money from all your purchases....they CAN'T lose money. I'm not sure what they charge a store when you buy something there, but it's probably somewhere around 3% or 4% (maybe more?). If they offer you 1% or 2% cashback they're still making 1% or 2% of your purchase each time you buy something.....but yea they do make most their money off the interest when people don't pay off their balances. Haha I really dont think you're even screwing anyone...more like the credit card companies screw all of us because they're technically making less money go to the stores we buy from (which I would imagine increases their prices).
-DaViper
i'm with ya on that oneGbourdon said:My debt to income ratio is all fuxxored because I overextended myself. I am glad I learned my lesson early on when I was young and stupid. I will never make the same mistake again.