trade in 03.5 P5 for 03.5 MSP?

brucelee

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hmm, so after reading reviews and this forum and hearing stories....i just can't contain myself anymore. i want to get a msp. the only problem is that i'm financially not able to. -_-; BUT...for curiosity, what do you think a 03.5 p5 with ~4500 miles could be worth for trade-in? with all these rebates and price drops going on....
damn i want one.
 
Good luck. Be prepared to put down some major coin to lower the negative equity in the P5. Not being smart but you should have researched a little more before making a decision.
 
well i haven't made any final decision yet. most likely by the time i have the money all the msp's will be sold. so this was a speculation.
 
Hey - the difference between what you'd get for the P5 and what the MSP would cost is your "modification budget". I'd bet you could make a helluva P5 for a few thou, and you'd have options that aren't available on the MSP (like a hatch, maybe cruise, a sunroof...)... Good luck! What color/options does yours have?Maybe a MSP'er would trade?
 
If it were me, I'd keep the P5. I sometimes wished I had a P5 instead of the MSP. I've seen some P5's that looked pretty damn good! Who cares if it's a station wagon. The MSP isn't really worth the extra money imo.
 
I've seen fully loaded p5's going through the manheim auto auction(largest auto auction in the world) going for like 14,000 but like I said loaded up, auto, leather, roof, premium stereo w/ six disc all the good stuff.
 
Dude..If you want a MSP b/c of a turbo..Your are better off just buying a turbo kit!

Chas
 
yea i think i will stick to modding the p5. lot more economic....i'm just drawn to those aesthetic extras, as well as better handling. what would it take to get a p5 to handle as well as an msp? i'll search on that.
 
the dealers not going to give you much at all. if you want, do a private sale, you'll get a few more bucks for it.
but i say keep the 5!!!!
 
You can probably make the P5 handle better - I'd imagine the weight distribution is a little better with mnore weight over the rear. Personally I'd do the following:

1) Replace the swaybars with upgraded ones - that'll make the biggest difference, will stiffen the ride (even straight ahead) as it brings both shocks into play. This may be all you want.
2) Go to 17's with 205/45 or 215/45 tires (check the boards to be sure the set you purchase will fit). "1338" has a set of nice 17's for sale already...

The combination of 1 and 2 above gets you the majority of the ultimate grip of an MSP, without as much of the stiff-kneed ride that shorter, stiffer springs and stiffer shocks will bring. The 17's will give a sharper edge to the steering, and the bars will flatten the cornering.

3) At about 30kmiles, replace the stock struts and springs with newer, lower, stiffer ones. That way you have some time to evaluate the compromises this brings - and see if this will be worth it. The ride gets a bunch stiffer, ground clearance suffers, and your ultimate grip may not change - but you'll have more of a go-kart "feel". Replace them quicker if your wallet allows, but I choose 30kmiles so you get SOME wear out of the stock suspension - or replace sooner and sell the stock suspension to someone with 30-40k on their car.

4) IF your wallet can handle it, then upgrade the power using a bolt-on turbo kit (with boost gauge ALWAYS for an aftermarket kit), or do other power mods covered in other areas of the Forum. You want the handling and grip before the power if you can help it. Usually I'd also upgrade the brakes before adding power, but I've heard the P5's brakes are up to it. If you disagree, then do brakes before power (stopping is more important).

THEN you can head for the "car lingerie" department with spoilers, vinyl (worth 2/10ths in the 1/4 mile alone), etc.

Have fun - heck, it sounds like fun to me!
 
haha, my wallet right now is thinner than an asian guy (yes i'm asian so i can say these jokes). but hopefully i'll have money for a swaybar. are you saying both swaybars? from what i've read in other threads people just seem to change the rear. and then i need to get better struts, is that right? damn i feel stupid. anyway aside from that, for the msp, how much does the lsd play in its handling?
 
I traded my 02 yellow P5 for my 03 spicey orange MSP and lost alot of money. But on the other hand, I dont have to spend the money I would have to get the P5 to perform like the MSP and I have a limited edition car all under warranty. So I did it! :) I dont ever regret it even though my P5 never gave me a whimper of trouble in the year I had it.

I love my MSP!!! :D
 
Well..The p5 already handles like a dream...If you want to really get the handling up..You are best off..getting:

1. Larger Rims as Noted Above...
2. Drop the Car to get a lower center of gravity
3. get some motor mounts to help w/ the wheel hop & such

To get the speed up
1. get a aftermarket turbo kit

Shouldn't cost more than $5-6k..depending if you go new or used!

chas

P.S. I considered trading in for the MSP..But the Insurance is alot higher..and my monthly payments would go from 260permonth to about 330per month!
 

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