I figure if they come off the sticker $2000 or $1000 and looooow ARP I could do it. That is if they give me at least what I owe on the P5. I only have 13K miles and it's in absolutly perfect shape (even still smells new since I have towels in my floors and seats to keep out the musty dirt smell). I'm gonna give my dealer a visit at the end of the month when they alittle more desprate to sell cars.