Thermoblock Spacer and Throttle Body Spacer - Outlaw Engineering
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I had one on my Crown Vic, worked good for keeping the intake cool and got a few HP from that, especially when I iced the intake at the track. Didn't really notice much around town. Of course this is with a 240HP 5.0L.
As for top end vs. low end power, lengthening the runners(ie adding a spacer) =low end power.
As for top end vs. low end power, lengthening the runners(ie adding a spacer) =low end power.
Guys....please don't get confused. There are two types of spacers that seem to get mixed up with each other...
PHENOLIC SPACERS from OUTLAW engineering - These create a thermal barrier between the block and the intake manifold and/or the throttle body. This has NOTHING to do with changing the "shape" / "velocity" of the air.
Throttle Body Spacers (not sure what the various marketing names are) - These supposedly change the intake air characteristics (shape, speed, path) and improve performance.
PHENOLIC SPACERS from OUTLAW engineering - These create a thermal barrier between the block and the intake manifold and/or the throttle body. This has NOTHING to do with changing the "shape" / "velocity" of the air.
Throttle Body Spacers (not sure what the various marketing names are) - These supposedly change the intake air characteristics (shape, speed, path) and improve performance.
They only show the temp drop because they do not create any extra horsepower they keep you from losing it due to heat soak of the intake manifold. You won't really notice any change on dyno due to the fact that you normally test an engine on a dyno as cool as you can to get top readings. These spacers are just to keep the intake air as cool as possible for as long as possible.A.V.MSP said:
Thread resurrection 
We are in the process of making thermal spacers similar to the ones out on the market currently from places already mentioned in here. But we are also improving them. We are using a material that has better thermal insulation properites while still maintaining the tensile strength and temperature resistance necessary. Also, we are laser matching these to the stock gaskets so the fit will be exact and the machinig process being used will also be very accurate.
Additionally, we are hoping to be well under the cost of the other options available. So you should be able to get something better for cheaper! We hope to be ready to go in about 3-4 weeks on the IM spacer/insulator.
Keep in mind though, that those of you that have aftermarket intakes on your car that run very close to the master cylinder may have additional difficulty with these. We are going to test fit a car that has an intake on it and see if we can get around that issue. I'll keep you updated as I can and there is a seperate thread in general performance dedicated purely to these spacers.
Thanks guys!
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
We are in the process of making thermal spacers similar to the ones out on the market currently from places already mentioned in here. But we are also improving them. We are using a material that has better thermal insulation properites while still maintaining the tensile strength and temperature resistance necessary. Also, we are laser matching these to the stock gaskets so the fit will be exact and the machinig process being used will also be very accurate.
Additionally, we are hoping to be well under the cost of the other options available. So you should be able to get something better for cheaper! We hope to be ready to go in about 3-4 weeks on the IM spacer/insulator.
Keep in mind though, that those of you that have aftermarket intakes on your car that run very close to the master cylinder may have additional difficulty with these. We are going to test fit a car that has an intake on it and see if we can get around that issue. I'll keep you updated as I can and there is a seperate thread in general performance dedicated purely to these spacers.
Thanks guys!
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
TurfBurn said:Thread resurrection
We are in the process of making thermal spacers similar to the ones out on the market currently from places already mentioned in here. But we are also improving them. We are using a material that has better thermal insulation properites while still maintaining the tensile strength and temperature resistance necessary. Also, we are laser matching these to the stock gaskets so the fit will be exact and the machinig process being used will also be very accurate.
Additionally, we are hoping to be well under the cost of the other options available. So you should be able to get something better for cheaper! We hope to be ready to go in about 3-4 weeks on the IM spacer/insulator.
Keep in mind though, that those of you that have aftermarket intakes on your car that run very close to the master cylinder may have additional difficulty with these. We are going to test fit a car that has an intake on it and see if we can get around that issue. I'll keep you updated as I can and there is a seperate thread in general performance dedicated purely to these spacers.
Thanks guys!
Steve
sales@nsnmotorsports.com
Sweet, I'd be interested possibly.
A nice "option" would be for you guys to also source a properly bent TB to MAF piece to replace the issue of it running into the master cylinder.
Now THAT would be value added (cheers)
Updates and so forth... see this thread:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80994&page=3
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80994&page=3
