Texans, explain this.

[Donas64]

You are reqiured to get other vaccines. I dont understand what all the fuss is about. People dont know the long term effects of all required vaccines they give now. This one just happens to be an std and every one panties are getting bunched up. Just drink some prune juice and let it go(i know im corny)

Thats the Difference. The other vaccines are for diseases such as polio and malaria e.t.c Stuff you can get just through the air and really through no fault of your own. In the case of this vaccine, its from sexual contact so you're not nearly as likely to get it as the other conditions.

 

[thepepperman]

Thats the Difference. The other vaccines are for diseases such as polio and malaria e.t.c Stuff you can get just through the air and really through no fault of your own. In the case of this vaccine, its from sexual contact so you're not nearly as likely to get it as the other conditions.

Well, it is targeted at 11-12 year old girls because this is the age when the vaccine is most effective. Not to say that they are then safe to have sex. This is a protection measure for the rest of their lives, just like many other vaccines we receive when we are young. It doesn't really matter about the mode of transmission. If they came out with a vaccine for AIDs, would you say don't legislate that because it will lead to sexual activity? The main point is that it helps eradicate a disease - a goal I think citizens and governments alike should strive for.

The governor's order had a provision for any parents that want their children to abstain from the vaccine. So it was not a 100% binding order for every citizen.

BTW I'm responding to everyone, not just you Donas.

 

[mountjonas]

You are reqiured to get other vaccines. I dont understand what all the fuss is about. People dont know the long term effects of all required vaccines they give now. This one just happens to be an std and every one panties are getting bunched up. Just drink some prune juice and let it go(i know im corny)

you are not required to get vaccines. you can always opt out. my wife's coworker's children are NOT vaccinated for anything.

 

[miss_steele_msp]

you are not required to get vaccines. you can always opt out. my wife's coworker's children are NOT vaccinated for anything.

If I want to send my kids to school with other children their vaccinations MUST be up to date.

 

[Killer]

If I want to send my kids to school with other children their vaccinations MUST be up to date.

Difference being those are for communicable airborne diseases. Someone has to have their dick out to get the other virus. I think the vaccine is a great idea. But the state has no business telling people what to do to protect you from an STD.

 

[Diehonda]

Forgot to say fixed in the quote.

I understand that you can have your opinions but the required part is what gets me. Like stated above, it may not be REQUIRED for everyone to take it but the public school system requires that all state manadated vaccines are required to be taken before admissions are accepted to start school.

It should be recommended until more companies are providing it and more research is done as to the long term effects.

To go from "hey check out this new drug that can help people" to "now the government is requiring it" in less than one year is ridiculous.

 

[Killer]

face the facts..Texas blows. LOL

 

[ProtoType5]

Another Mazda Political Discussion.....Well, I'll just supply some FACTS...Not my personal opinions

-There are about 100 different HPV viruses...from Planter warts to the Genital Kinds....

-30 strains are known to cause Genital Warts

-3 strains are known to cause Cervical Cancer

-The vaccine is for those three strains, that is why it is a "series" of shots...Three to be exact...

-3 out of 4 Americans 15-49 have been infected with Genital HPV at some point in their lives.

-15,000 women are diagnosed with Cervical Cancer each year

-5,000 women die each year from Cervical Cancer.

-The vaccine prevents Cervical Cancer...It does not Promote SEX!!!!

 

[miss_steele_msp]

Difference being those are for communicable airborne diseases. Someone has to have their dick out to get the other virus. I think the vaccine is a great idea. But the state has no business telling people what to do to protect you from an STD.

I am aware of the differences. I was referring to not knowing the long term effects.
And It's really to prevent cervical cancer not just an std. Notice no one cares about guys who have it.

 

[mountjonas]

Well, I'll just supply some FACTS...Not my personal opinions...

It does not Promote SEX!!!!

that's an opinion.

i don't think it promotes sex either, but i'd still like to see some long term studies. if there's no major side effects, then i'm all for having my daughter getting vaccinated. but that's still the choice to be made by my wife and i.

if i recall correctly, even if the bill passed, the parents could still opt out of the vaccination. i don't think that this was widely known. either way, health care and politics suck.

 

[16902]

i don't think it promotes sex either, but i'd still like to see some long term studies. if there's no major side effects, then i'm all for having my daughter getting vaccinated. but that's still the choice to be made by my wife and i.

agreed

 

[miss_steele_msp]

Another Mazda Political Discussion.....Well, I'll just supply some FACTS...Not my personal opinions

-There are about 100 different HPV viruses...from Planter warts to the Genital Kinds....

-30 strains are known to cause Genital Warts

-3 strains are known to cause Cervical Cancer

-The vaccine is for those three strains, that is why it is a "series" of shots...Three to be exact...

-3 out of 4 Americans 15-49 have been infected with Genital HPV at some point in their lives.

-15,000 women are diagnosed with Cervical Cancer each year

-5,000 women die each year from Cervical Cancer.

-The vaccine prevents Cervical Cancer...It does not Promote SEX!!!!

Well put.

 

[Donas64]

that's an opinion.

i don't think it promotes sex either, but i'd still like to see some long term studies. if there's no major side effects, then i'm all for having my daughter getting vaccinated. but that's still the choice to be made by my wife and i.

BINGO!

 

[Donas64]

Another Mazda Political Discussion.....

That because we're an enlightened group of Mazda owners who like to delve into deeper topics once in a while other than what car we totally smoked on the way back from work today!

But serioulsy though, nothing wrong with a little political debate. As long as its civil

 

[TheMAN]

while I agree that further studies needs to be done to weigh the benefits of this vaccine, and therefore this vaccine shouldn't be mandated, consider that there's lots of other things out there that *should* be mandatory but they got knocked down by the "freedom" zealots

IF this vaccine *had* been proven safe (after extensive studies/monitoring), would it change your mind about it being mandatory? it definately would for me... I would be pro mandate

so while we're still in the hypothetical situation that this s*** has been proven safe, if you're against mandating it, you're an idiot and an asshole... this s*** is to the benefit of public health and safety and you just want to put everyone and your kids at risk just in the name of "freedom"? people don't have the ability to detect the disease and go "OMG! I'll stay away!", people get it on when they want to and you can't stop that either... and if they get sick from whatever s*** that could've been preventable, then that person is proper ****** and can potentially **** up more people

so in the name of "freedom", the US has been reknown for:
-super easy driver license certification which resulted in basically the highest number of road fatalities per million miles out of all industralized countries
-illegal immigrants allowed to get driver licenses
-parents allowed to "home school" children who in the end known to be "dumber than s***" (technically, unedumacated, which is not the same as intellectual ability), and have a GED which is regarded as a joke everywhere
-drive unnecessary land yachts without any real penalties that poses significant road safety concerns AND is causing/caused the government to figure out ways to "save energy" and "reduce foreign oil dependancy" such as scheming the very *smart* extended daylight saving time
-withdrew from the kyoto protocol and thus is still a significant contributor to greenhouse gases in the industralized world

freedom is the greatest thing! (usa)

 

[sanblaster]

I remember when Texas was flirting with the idea of becoming an 'independent' nation. That is funny. What that has to do with this, beats me.

 

[16902]

IF this vaccine *had* been proven safe (after extensive studies/monitoring), would it change your mind about it being mandatory? it definately would for me... I would be pro mandate

Yes. I agree, if it is safe, it should be mandatory like MMR, tetnus (SP?) etc.

 

[MiaTurbo]

Texas is too big to be a single state. it should be divided into like 3 states: West Texas, Texas, and Mexico Jr.

As far as the vaccine, I don't think it should be required...

 

[Blake]

face the facts..Texas blows. LOL

YOUR STATE BLOWS (evil)


edit im totally kidding, as Im pretty sure you were jokeing too.

 

[Kansei]

*Forgot to say fixed*

I have a daughter and I would want to know what the long range effects are.

The vaccine should be recommended but not required.

agreed. I think instead of mandating it (though you could opt out.. just some lovely gov't forms), they should instead do a media blitz and distribute information to every household with a female child.