Test Pipe dilemma.

[parkerfe]

you track ****** singing the songs of road course exploits need to get a life (bolt)

the one thing that sold most of us on this car, the main aspect that sealed the deal, was the power, specifically the torque. Sure we like the 4 doors with a hatch, sure we like the look, or the overall value, but the 263hp and 280lbft is what sealed the deal. showcasing that power is such an accessible activity during the average menial drive; it's something you can do in any number of ways, safely and legally, on pretty much any public road anywhere and any time.

it could be merging into traffic, pulling away from a toll, passing a line of slow moving traffic- these are examples that you see everyday, and the fun had has everything to do with pressing the pedal and feeling the torque and very little to do with lateral G's. sure, fantastic handling is great, and coupled with some skill certainly can be very rewarding and in fact life saving, but during the daily drive, there is little to no outlet for much of anything that can be had on a road course.

i'd invest more time into promoting track time for sport bike enthusiasts, where it really makes sense, as opposed to preaching to those who for the most part are looking for more power for the daily commute as 280ftlbs is just not enough after a while. i mean, just take a look through most of the this forum- a heavy, heavy percentage want more power, they want to go faster...not on a road course, but in the real world.

i understand the handling game...you'll see me promoting the new eibach pro-kit release countless times on this forum, but let's not forget where we are here and what car we're talking about!

IMHO, it is the ones that don't think a 0-60mph time in less than 6 seconds and a top speed of 150mph is not enough for the street that need to "get a life"; it is more than plenty. The truth is that most who crave more power for the sake of some number on a dyno cannot handle the power the car already has stock. It is usually the same people who only read the HP figures when they read a magazine road test. But, I did the same thing when I was a little boy. FYI, I have seen a novice in Viper out run on Roebling Road in Savannah by a Civic because the Viper driver could not drive...Start modifying for more power once you can drive the car at 10/10ths on a road course for a few laps...

 

[builthatch]

IMHO, it is the ones that don't think a 0-60mph time in less than 6 seconds and a top speed of 150mph is not enough for the street that need to "get a life"; it is more than plenty. The truth is that most who crave more power for the sake of some number on a dyno cannot handle the power the car already has stock. It is usually the same people who only read the HP figures when they read a magazine road test. But, I did the same thing when I was a little boy. FYI, I have seen a novice in Viper out run on Roebling Road in Savannah by a Civic because the Viper driver could not drive...Start modifying for more power once you can drive the car at 10/10ths on a road course for a few laps...

"IMHO", ehh? hehe...

well...first and foremost, let it be known that arguing with a lawyer, on the internet no less, is the epitome of wasting time. it simply doesn't get any worse than that. you have made quite a few wildly off-base inferences and generalizations that make it an even further waste of time trying to counter (if that is even possible).

i will say, however, that your closemindedness is nothing new. it certainly predates the intenet age, haha. for every die hard road racer who exclaims the exalts of the turns and ignores the practical fun of useable, albeit extreme, highway (straightline) passing power in a street car, there is a drag racer out there who appreciates nothing more than feeling forward g's akin to a trainer jet with the balls to the wall and could not care less about the turn that follows the straight...

thankfully, i'm right in the middle. i have never, and won't ever, be on either end of the aforementioned extremes like you. do you know why? because i drive a street car on the street. i don't actively road race, i don't actively drag race. i am rather adept at both, and past that i have a very deep understanding of both markets from a business perspective. however...my main focus, and i'll say it again, is to have as much fun as possible performing the menial task of driving from point A to point B. thankfully not all of our roads are perfectly straight without obstacle, and not all of them are engrossed with boundless turns, switchbacks and chicanes.

 

[parkerfe]

"IMHO", ehh? hehe...

well...first and foremost, let it be known that arguing with a lawyer, on the internet no less, is the epitome of wasting time. it simply doesn't get any worse than that. you have made quite a few wildly off-base inferences and generalizations that make it an even further waste of time trying to counter (if that is even possible).

i will say, however, that your closemindedness is nothing new. it certainly predates the intenet age, haha. for every die hard road racer who exclaims the exalts of the turns and ignores the practical fun of useable, albeit extreme, highway (straightline) passing power in a street car, there is a drag racer out there who appreciates nothing more than feeling forward g's akin to a trainer jet with the balls to the wall and could not care less about the turn that follows the straight...

thankfully, i'm right in the middle. i have never, and won't ever, be on either end of the aforementioned extremes like you. do you know why? because i drive a street car on the street. i don't actively road race, i don't actively drag race. i am rather adept at both, and past that i have a very deep understanding of both markets from a business perspective. however...my main focus, and i'll say it again, is to have as much fun as possible performing the menial task of driving from point A to point B. thankfully not all of our roads are perfectly straight without obstacle, and not all of them are engrossed with boundless turns, switchbacks and chicanes.

You missed my point entirely. My point is that the owner of a street car gets more value spending money on driver training, brakes, suspension upgrades, ect...than on HP enhancing modifications. As far as a road course verses a drag course, a MS3 is much better suited to the former than the latter...

 

[chaos4]

this is where this car shines:

 

[fuentini]

what the f**K is a test pipe?

 

[builthatch]

what the f**K is a test pipe?

the power of Google-

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&suggon=0&safe=off&q=test+pipe+mazdaspeed3

 

[lukegolf21]

what the f**K is a test pipe?

this guy kidding? lol

 

[Antonio DiMarco]

Not everyone is into the fringe.

this guy kidding? lol

Don't know if your being a wise ass or just kidding here. Not everyone is into buying mods. Maybe you shold describe a test pipe to him. Or don't you know?

 

[lukegolf21]

whoa there, kind of just kidding, but i guess i could answer your question if you are serious. "this guy kidding" happens to be one of the best quotes from happy gilmore, a classic in itself, so for me the phrase is meant to be a wise ass statement, so i understand your confusion...back to topic
A test pipe is the second of three pieces of your stock exhaust, between the downpipe and cat-back. The stock one contains a catalayic converter, and happens to be very restrictive. Aftermarket test pipes ( aka race pipes, mid pipes) are catless, and help to free up your exhaust a little more, without making it much louder. Gains are expected to be about 10-12 hp, and it is one of the easiest mods for your car. No CEL's will appear, and it is a very safe mod. Hope this makes it clear to you.


peace

 

[Antonio DiMarco]

I did put a "smily face" on my question...

whoa there, kind of just kidding, but i guess i could answer your question if you are serious. "this guy kidding" happens to be one of the best quotes from happy gilmore, a classic in itself, so for me the phrase is meant to be a wise ass statement, so i understand your confusion...back to topic
A test pipe is the second of three pieces of your stock exhaust, between the downpipe and cat-back. The stock one contains a catalayic converter, and happens to be very restrictive. Aftermarket test pipes ( aka race pipes, mid pipes) are catless, and help to free up your exhaust a little more, without making it much louder. Gains are expected to be about 10-12 hp, and it is one of the easiest mods for your car. No CEL's will appear, and it is a very safe mod. Hope this makes it clear to you.


peace

No harm no foul. I did put a smily face on my question

Peace...

 

[AutoXRacer]

I want to order a Test Pipe for my Speed 3 but My wife does not like me modding the new car. She does not drive the Speed and will never know I put it on but she will notice the big brown box on the porch. I've thought about having it sent to a friends house but companies will send only to the billing address on the credit card. How do I get the pipe? There has to be other guys out there that have had this problem. Any suggestions?

(owned) (braindead

Damn, I feel sorry for the OP...

Hell, my GF supports and sponsors my mods... (lol2)

I would suggest to bite the bullet once and for all and MAN UP!!! There's one thing that really ticks me and hit hearing about guys in a relationship where a woman tells him how to spend his money or has his balls in a vice. If all the bills and responsibilities are taken care of, then he should be able to splurge a little on himself.

Effin :bs:...