TEIN Super Street Coilovers [sedan]

I got the specs today. (attn)

Spring Rates
6kg front (335lb)
7kg rear (391lb)
The general rule of thumb is you can go up our down 2kg without having to revalve.
2kg = 112lb
8kg = 447lb
9kg = 503lb

Adjustment Range
Front is -.9 to -2.3
Rear is -.4 to -1.6
(Recommended Front -1.7 Rear -1.1)

EDFC is compatable part # EDKU1-12120
 
Solo2Protege said:
ride is great.

No pings, squeaks, clicks, clunks or thumps AT ALL!! No rubbing either.

I have not recieved the specs yet from TEIN...
h and r spring is good to.i like the drop is so perfect
 
Between your coilovers, your new exhaust and your SS, I would say that you got a pretty damn good deal on not paying for a thing.
Solo2Protege said:
I got the specs today. (attn)

Spring Rates
6kg front (335lb)
7kg rear (391lb)
The general rule of thumb is you can go up our down 2kg without having to revalve.
2kg = 112lb
8kg = 447lb
9kg = 503lb

Adjustment Range
Front is -.9 to -2.3
Rear is -.4 to -1.6
(Recommended Front -1.7 Rear -1.1)

EDFC is compatable part # EDKU1-12120
 
so what are the advantages of having higher spring rates... complete noob when it comes to suspension work....
 
RHAGEL said:
Between your coilovers, your new exhaust and your SS, I would say that you got a pretty damn good deal on not paying for a thing.

yes indeed. and add to that list, DDE's and the SRI (first)
 
Update

I had a chance to autox my 3 this past Sunday. Only did 5 runs at the end of the day, but it was enough to get a feel for it.
All i did was adjust tire pressures, i did not change the damper settings. 36psi front and 38psi rear on stock 17" tires. I left the jack and spare in there too...not enough time to remove it before i ran.

The car did quite well, although i could definetely feel the weight of the car, compared to the others i was driving that day and especially compared to my preped Protege. I ran competetive times vs. other cars that were more preped and beat some of them too.

As the car sits, it's a STS classed car. The only suspenion mods are the SS coilovers. Engine mods are only the SRI and ARK exhaust (i guess you could add the short shifter too...but it's not much of a performance mod) It could use a harness, but the seats weren't all that bad. My biggest complaint is where my knee rests against the center console, i'd definetely need a kneepad. This would be greatly reduced with the use of a harness, but i think there'd still be enough pressure to require a kneepad.

Body roll was nice and tight, but with the crappy tires, the front wanted to slide, so i couldn't push it as hard as i would have liked. With some Azenis or V710's, it would have turned in faster times. The power was nice, pulled well out of the corners and had good power down the straights.

All in all, it could be a competitive car, but not a winner. Add in a sway bar kit, better tires and some weight loss and it would run with most STS cars. I was happy how it did. Since it's my daily driver, i am really going to have to work hard not to prep it anymore and be tempted to run it...lol

For a quick comparison, the fastest time i ran in a nicely preped Sentra SER was 58.2xx on sat morning, never having even walked the course. My fast time in the MZ3 was 58.8xx. Now this was after 2 days of running the same course, about 30-35 laps. So you can see, it can indeed be competitive.
 
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tsunami said:
so what are the advantages of having higher spring rates... complete noob when it comes to suspension work....

Unless you plan to race it competitively, higher spring rates will just give you a rougher ride. I've only raced the car once, so i dunno what spring rates would be better.

A higher spring rate will reduce some body roll and depending on the front to rear rates will get the car to rotate. With most FWD cars, you'd want higher spring rates up front...but all the kits i've seen for the 3 have higher rates in the rear...i just don't have enough race time in the car (which is a good thing...i don't want to race it.....yet) to know what rates would be best for autox atleast. Although i do know that the Eibachs or similar rated springs would be way to soft. 350-400lbs would be my starting point if i were to set it up for race.
 
Also, with struts toe can change significatly under compression and rebound. With stiffer springs you're limiting the suspension travel and your toe won't change as much. You'll have an easier time setting up the car too. Also, with the reduced body roll you won't need as much negative camber statically.
 
Solo2Protege said:
Unless you plan to race it competitively, higher spring rates will just give you a rougher ride. I've only raced the car once, so i dunno what spring rates would be better.

A higher spring rate will reduce some body roll and depending on the front to rear rates will get the car to rotate. With most FWD cars, you'd want higher spring rates up front...but all the kits i've seen for the 3 have higher rates in the rear...i just don't have enough race time in the car (which is a good thing...i don't want to race it.....yet) to know what rates would be best for autox atleast. Although i do know that the Eibachs or similar rated springs would be way to soft. 350-400lbs would be my starting point if i were to set it up for race.

This seems to be often overlooked, but the effective spring rate of the front springs usually stiffer than the rear. The rear springs, when measured by themselves will have a higher spring rate than the fronts, but once installed in the car, there is a mechanical advantage (lever) which changes the effective spring rate. The front springs are almost directly inline so the spring rate is more or less direct.
 
djltoronto said:
This seems to be often overlooked, but the effective spring rate of the front springs usually stiffer than the rear. The rear springs, when measured by themselves will have a higher spring rate than the fronts, but once installed in the car, there is a mechanical advantage (lever) which changes the effective spring rate. The front springs are almost directly inline so the spring rate is more or less direct.
Exactly. Spring rate is not what you should pay attention to. Wheel rates should always be considered.
 
Mallard said:
Exactly. Spring rate is not what you should pay attention to. Wheel rates should always be considered.

everything is to be paid attention to...they all work as a team.
 
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