Spool MSP Turbo Upgrade?

[OrangeMSP]

ill have dyno results in about 2 weeks hopefully ill show ya 225 at the wheels on stock internals

 

[spoolinmp3]

this fs motor CANOT handle 225 hp with stock internals.botom line.

Who told you that?
I have been running 230whp (10psi) for a year now on my car with no problems whatsoever. Just ran a compression test and all were perfect compression.
The magic to its simple fuel, which is easy on the MSP (there are guys running 12psi on there motors) And timing maps on the current MSP are conservative enough not to manipulate them like the protege5/mp3
In regards to our tranny's they can easily take 230 whp if you do not beat up on them, again my car is living proof to that

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

(bow) terry

 

[I-Am-Chris]

NEVA! MSP will OW3N ATX and dallas and houston and....

All I have to say is bring it to Arlington!!!!!! (haha just bought my turbo! ) they have 310's by the way.

 

[perfworks]

Who told you that?
I have been running 230whp (10psi) for a year now on my car with no problems whatsoever. Just ran a compression test and all were perfect compression.
The magic to its simple fuel, which is easy on the MSP (there are guys running 12psi on there motors) And timing maps on the current MSP are conservative enough not to manipulate them like the protege5/mp3
In regards to our tranny's they can easily take 230 whp if you do not beat up on them, again my car is living proof to that

teryy first off, congrats on your your 230 whp. these 2.0l fs motors have very strong pistons but weak rods and wrist pins. unless you get or have done any internal mods to the motor this will NOT last. now if you are running 10 psi occasionaly with proper engine management, and lets say 6-8 on the street then obviously it will take a longer time.

i have not mentioned anything about the tranny yet but i will address that at another time.
again the magic is not only fuel. as someone who understands the forced induction world than you should now that the most important next to fuel is the proper ignition timing to recieve peak cylinder pressures at the right angle and then and only then can you claim that the engine can take larger amounts of boost.

now do you have #1 any mods done yet internally?
#2 is it an mp3 with a MSP ecu?
and can you please answer the obove questions that were directed towards your upgraded kit for the msp. thanks in advance

 

[spoolinmp3]

Not a problem perfworks
Ok the ecu I am running is an MP3 ecu, I run a link system that is a piggy back that adds fuel and retards timing. I run 10 psi dailyand have been doing so for about a year with no problems, no detonation and perfect compression. I know that MAZDA claims the limit is 225hp at the rods but this by all means in my opinion is a very conservative rating

 

[perfworks]

Not a problem perfworks
Ok the ecu I am running is an MP3 ecu, I run a link system that is a piggy back that adds fuel and retards timing. I run 10 psi dailyand have been doing so for about a year with no problems, no detonation and perfect compression. I know that MAZDA claims the limit is 225hp at the rods but this by all means in my opinion is a very conservative rating

i agree with you on the conservative numbers. but the reason why i posted that was to inform those who DONT have any ignition mangement. like i said with the right ignition then you can tune PCP to the boosted application and take away alot of stress associated with detonation at high boost and rpm levels.

now about this link system how is it retarding timing? are you manipulating signals from the crank sensor or controling the signal sent to the coils for when to fire.
as you know this has been a problem for some to configure without going into fault mode.
next correct me if im wrong but from what we are working on the mazda ecu has a seperate system to retard timing on detonation thru the knock sensor.
now i know every system on many cars use a knock sensor for this BUT they dont have a specific system just for retrd. they will usually refer back to rpm, load and baro thru the egr solenoid spring. this system is JUST for retard and the PCM will only listen to the knock sensor voltage signal to retard timing.

now back to the MSP questions.
i havent worked on one so i am not that familiar with the fuel and ignition curves.
what is the stock injector size and is the regulator and intank pump the same with the proteges 2.0l motor?
again thanks in advance

 

[OrangeMSP]

All I have to say is bring it to Arlington!!!!!! (haha just bought my turbo! ) they have 310's by the way.

what ya get? !!