skyline t28 bb turbo upgrade

[Spoolin4]

To be completely honest I don't even know why i **** with a mazda. It will never make the power honda, nissan, or mitsu will ever make. I guess i just like the look of the MSP and this forum other then that...it's a really good question.

 

[txrxs]

ok fucktards, pluto knows his s***, but thats neither her nor there. It's not about having a fast car, bragging rights are for wacking yourself off, it's not about being anything. It's just simple logic, do whatever the **** you want with your car.

All I was saying from the start is this:
Is your current turbo maxed out?
Have you done pretty much every "bolt on"?
Do you have engine management?
Did you know these motors throw rods at stock boost?

Honestly, unless you've exhausted every option and you're on the stock block there is no reason to "upgrade" the turbo. Ask anyone whose been here for a while. The FSDE is a throw away motor, I loved my msp but that's the truth, build it or blow it, simple as that.

 

[Spoolin4]

Good for him. he can know all the mazda s*** he wants to but now it's turning into car vs car. Any mazda FWD will never i repeat never out run a honda! I'm not talking about stock either, but even stock most the time honda would win. RSX type S vs MSP, or RSX vs ES. Both are 2.0's and the MSP is turbo thats pretty sad.

 

[pluto316]

Ok Mr. Mazda Tech. no i haven't compared the maps, sorry i'm not a mazda guru but since you "know you s***" and you have some sort of confidence that your car is quick. Run my hatchback i'll be in FL in june for the summer. We will see who's questioning who then.

I have a bone stock MSP and a weight reduction Miata. I am sure your car is the fastest down a quarter mile. Oh boy. 16 second quarters for everyone!

In the meantime learn about compressor efficiency, then get a compressor map for the skyline T28s and look at their 15psi sweet spot. After that take a look at your crank though the hole in your block when you ran 15psi on a FS-DE on stock rods. If you need me I'll be cutting more dead weight off my Miata.

 

[Spoolin4]

I have a bone stock MSP and a weight reduction Miata. I am sure your car is the fastest down a quarter mile. Oh boy. 16 second quarters for everyone!

In the meantime learn about compressor efficiency, then get a compressor map for the skyline T28s and look at their 15psi sweet spot. After that take a look at your crank though the hole in your block when you ran 15psi on a FS-DE on stock rods. If you need me I'll be cutting more dead weight off my Miata.

If you would ******* read we were talking about the intake manifold Captian Obvious. Anytime your going to run more then 8 to 10 pounds forge the bottom end. It's not rocket science. And I don't run quaters. Drag racing is for pussies. Street and Mountain racing is all i do and the occasional interstate out run. My integra ran a 10.1 on street tires asshole(i have drag raced before i just don't like it) so all you mazda boys that are proud to run 13's you got another thing coming.

 

[Spoolin4]

I have a bone stock MSP and a weight reduction Miata. I am sure your car is the fastest down a quarter mile. Oh boy. 16 second quarters for everyone!

In the meantime learn about compressor efficiency, then get a compressor map for the skyline T28s and look at their 15psi sweet spot. After that take a look at your crank though the hole in your block when you ran 15psi on a FS-DE on stock rods. If you need me I'll be cutting more dead weight off my Miata.

One more thing. Thats probably a good idea to shave that weight, because I'm sure that miata would need ever pray that you could pray to run with this car.

 

[UnNaturalinc]

If you have to ask... you can't do it.


It's nothing but a waste to put a bigger turbo on a stock MSP motor. A WASTE

 

[Spoolin4]

If you have to ask... you can't do it.


It's nothing but a waste to put a bigger turbo on a stock MSP motor. A WASTE

you see how easy it was to reply with that. why did it take that long to do that? pluto watch your ass we have a new MSP guru here.

 

[Familia323]

(headshake to this thread

 

[pluto316]

One more thing. Thats probably a good idea to shave that weight, because I'm sure that miata would need ever pray that you could pray to run with this car.

(headshake

 

[RevLimitLaunch]

to answer your question yes i got the compressor map last night from a guy on the nissan forum and i do realize that the boost i plan to run on it isn't going to maximize what i could get out of the turbo. if the motor blows, i can put the stock parts back on it and hope the warranty covers it, if not i know blocks are cheap everywhere. the msp is really just a protege with a turbo kit, but as you pointed out about its olympic rod throwing capability you already know this. i don't believe however that i need to max everything out in my car before putting on a different sized turbo. im not looking to spend tons of money on this car to get 'mad power' out of it. i just saw this turbo up for sale, knew it would bolt on and so i figured why not make a weekend project out of it? strap it on, tune and see what happens on the dyno. i don't plan on jumping up and down with an extra 50+ horsepower from it. probably won't make more than 20 but i'd like to see how the dyno chart comes out. i don't care if anyone thinks its dumb or a waste of time. just something i can and will do for the hell of it. its like trying to tell a ricer his 2 foot tall double decker wing on his honduh does nothing for his stock fwd car. its all about preference i guess in the end.

 

[crashkelly]

If you have to ask... you can't do it.


It's nothing but a waste to put a bigger turbo on a stock MSP motor. A WASTE

Unless you are fan of turbo lag!