Signal lights replacement HELP!!!

prboy3

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Mazda3 Black Mica Auto
Hey forums,
I just changed the stock signal light bulbs with a pair of Sylvania Silverstar signal light bulbs. It seems that they don't work as they are supposed to. They flash or flicker very fast when the signal switch are ON. Also when the driving lights are ON the signal lights turn on very little as if they were inverted. I checked the Sylvania item number and fitting numbers and they match my 2004 MZ3. Please if any of you electronic pros can help me I would appreciate it a lot.

Thanks in Advances,

PRBOY3
 
Many blinker systems rely on a certain amount of current through a set of bi-metallic contacts. When the light is on, it draws current and causes the contacts to heat up and expand at different rates (the reason for two different types of metals) and eventually break the contact, turning them off. As the contacts cool, the will eventually re-connect turning the lights back on. This happens repeatedly giving you a blinking effect.

If the new lights draw less or more current, it will effect the blink rate. If you have a burnt bulb (open circuit), the good bulb will stay on since there is not enough current from one bulb to heat the contact sufficiently. If the bulb drifts to a lower resistance from its design, they can blink fast as well since there is more current causing the contacts to heat faster. You can see this working on many Christmas tree lights that have a "blinker" bulb (usually clear with a red tip).

Judging by your symptoms, I'd say those bulbs draw a little more current than stock ones.

I have never looked, but do the stock driving lights come on at a lower brightness at all? If so, there may be a circuit to reduce the voltage to the lights to make them slightly dimmer. This is probably done via some type of voltage divider circuit, be it active with transistors, or passive through simple power resistors. If your new bulbs draw more current, less of the voltage and/or current will get to the lights making them look dimmer. This may seem confusing, but makes sense from an electronics perspective.

All this is based on the type of circuit I've described above. If the lights use an electronic oscillator to active a blinking relay, this does not apply as much. Either way, the new bulbs may require higher power (more amperage). they may fit physically, but I'd check the power/current requirements of each to see if they match. You should be ok with a 5-10% change in values, but you never know.

I really don't know how the system could be "rigged" to fix this, but the only solution I can think of is to re-design it and that is probably not an option. Maybe a Mazda tech on here can validate my post or offer more help?

Sorry for the long-winded reply, but I like to describe how things work so the person can visualize things easier.
 
Swap in a heavy-duty flasher module. The same thing happens when you add a trailer to a regular car. The added load draws more current and makes the standard flasher cycle too quickly. The heavy duty flasher will slow down the flash rate.

Not sure what the connection is between the driving lights and the turn signals but it sounds like a ground problem.
 
I have the same signal lights from sylvania and they didnt cause any problems like your speaking of. Just a thought but did you try to exchange them. It can be a pain depending on where you go do to them being a "high theft" item from autopart stores. They gave me a fit when I needed to return the sylvania silverstar headlights for our cars do to a problem with the sockets being different.
 
Signal lightbulbs problem - SOLVED

Well,

Probably the signal light bulb is idiot proof, but they are supposed, and they did, enter one-way. Apparently the Sylvania signal lights were side marked with being one Right and one Left. After switching them they worked fine. Believe me I looked at the old signal lights, the new signal lights and even the new signal light packaging but it didnt said anywhere the Right-Left story. Anywhoo..!



Thanks for your help guys



PRBOY3
 
Weird. I've never heard of side-specific light bulbs. (scratch)
 
I know its hard to believe, but thats what I thought. I think that the conector or the plug of the bulb maybe side dependent??? Just a thought.

The good news is I don't have to buy another pair of Sylvanias because I didn't burned them being inverted!!! LOL

Just a note of awareness..

Thanks,

PRBOY3
 
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