Rim size affects ABS ?

ghetto waggon

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2003 Protege5, Yellow.
Was bored today so I pulled out an old super street magazine to read about tires. I found in that article that they said "plus sizing" your rims & tires can affect many things, i/e: speedo, rubbing, handling, but most importiantly the ABS???

I'm still running stock but wanting to move to chrome 18s, can someone advise me as to whether or not this will screw with the ABS system? I've never heard of this before. Thanks
 
Yes, it can affect your ABS performance. You have to change by a certain percentage before that will happen though. Unless you use different size wheels and tires on the front and rear and then you will get an ABS light.
 
Joe, one thing that is pretty important with our cars is keeping the DIAMETER of the tires the same as the stock tires....

sure you are still running stock size tires...but WHEN you do go with 18's you will be running either a 205/35/18 or a 215/35/18 either puts your tire diameter VERY close to that of stock and it won't effect your ABS to the point that you could even tell.

also....you ask me in a pm if you could use the stock lug nuts with the Rota Battles...the answer is NO you can not...you will need turner lugs.
 
ABS works by monitoring sensors only measuring the speed of rotation of each wheel. If one wheel begins rotating at a much slower speed then the rest, the ABS will begin to rapidly(somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 times a second) release and apply the brakes. Therefore, regardless of overall diameter, AS LONG AS ALL 4 WHEELS have the same overall diameter, it will NOT effect ABS performance. However, a larger wheel typically weighs more and therefore has a greater rotational inertia than a smaller wheel. This will reduce overall braking effectiveness. And when you start to run a much larger than stock diameter tire you will reduce the overall braking performance of the car further due to the larger force(wheel diameter) acting in the opposite direction of braking force(rotor diameter). Just think of a lever, if you move the fulcrum farther from the intended movement, the harder it is to move the lever. I hope this makes sense.

In higher end cars with stability control, a change in diameter can have a significant effect because those systems measure much more than the rotational speed of the wheels (such as yaw, roll, steering angle, throttle position, etc.) to determining what action should be taken to help stabilize the car. Therefore, by changing the input of a single variable, the wheel diameter, and not changing the inputs of the rest of the sensors or changing the program that does the calculations, you upset the whole system.
 
mp5 said:
ABS works by monitoring sensors only measuring the speed of rotation of each wheel. If one wheel begins rotating at a much slower speed then the rest, the ABS will begin to rapidly(somewhere in the neighborhood of 60 times a second) release and apply the brakes. Therefore, regardless of overall diameter, AS LONG AS ALL 4 WHEELS have the same overall diameter, it will NOT effect ABS performance. However, a larger wheel typically weighs more and therefore has a greater rotational inertia than a smaller wheel. This will reduce overall braking effectiveness. And when you start to run a much larger than stock diameter tire you will reduce the overall braking performance of the car further due to the larger force(wheel diameter) acting in the opposite direction of braking force(rotor diameter). Just think of a lever, if you move the fulcrum farther from the intended movement, the harder it is to move the lever. I hope this makes sense.

In higher end cars with stability control, a change in diameter can have a significant effect because those systems measure much more than the rotational speed of the wheels (such as yaw, roll, steering angle, throttle position, etc.) to determining what action should be taken to help stabilize the car. Therefore, by changing the input of a single variable, the wheel diameter, and not changing the inputs of the rest of the sensors or changing the program that does the calculations, you upset the whole system.

Yep. That about sums it up.
 

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