Q: About Rota Centercaps

[Equinox]

I just got my set of 18" rota subzeros, and I put em on, but one of the rims didn't come with a centercap, it also happens, that rim wobbles slightly when I drive, so I took the rims off, now, does the centercap actualy make it not wobble? When I look at the wheel when mounted, it looks liek the axle, that sticks through where the centercap should be, is hitting the rim and stopping it before the rim can sit flush on the brake rotor. Would the centercap fix this? Not sure if my other back one wobbles, although it has a centercap.

Also, anyone feel like overnighting a rota centercap, I doubt anyone sells them by themselves tho, if it holds the wheel on, it probably wont just fly off.... :'(

 

[Natey]

I have 17" sub-zeros on my P5, and the center bores had to be machined to fit correctly.
pm Greddy917. He's the guy that I got 'em from. He'll also be able to answer any sub-zero question.

 

[Equinox]

hmm you had to have em bored out eh, yeah it seems the axles are too big to fit through the centercap holes. Is it only on the rear rims tho? It seems the fronts fit fine, but now, both my rims are not sitting flush.

I noticed on one website that they sold 3mm spacers with some rotas, you think maybe a spacer would do the same?

 

[low_psi]

are you sure that wheel has a correctly balanced tire? it just sounds like they didn't weight the wheel properly. does it wobble just when driving, or just when its mounted on the hub whiel the p5 is jacked up?

dale doesn't have any problems with his slipstreams, granted they are a different rotas wheel on a different car...

try putting a centercap on the problem wheel and see if that fixes it, the centercap shouldn't matter though.

 

[Equinox]

Yeah they are perfectly mounted and balanced, I was there when they were doing it, and when they stuck on the ugly ass weights to balance the rim. Anyways when it's not balanced it will just vibrate, not physically shimmy liek a ghetto cruiser with a flat.

So yeah I looked at the back of the rim closely, and just as dumb as it sounded in the beginning, it's not the centercap that's causing the problem. My rear axles are just too big to fit through the hub hole in the rim, yeah it's both rear rims :'( , I need to machine the rim's hubs a little more open to clear the axles.

The rims were wobbling cause I was mounting the rim on the rounded off axle, and even when you put the lugnuts on in the star pattern, it still puts the wheel on crooked, as it sits on a make-shift ball joint. My rim couldn't go down far enough either, to sit flush with the brake rotors, making my brake rotors move from side to side slightly, making noise.

I just wonder if the machine shop can machine the rims with the tires still on them, cause boy is it a b**** to get those 18" tires mounted on the 19.5" lip/rim, money city. Either way, no 18"s for me til monday atleast, I'm so depressed about it I'm not even gonna put my stock ones back on, I'll just drive the horribly sporty camaro =/

I'm tempted to practically ruin my rims by filing down the centerbored to make it clear, heh, I'm so damn ricey.

 

[Natey]

I'll bet they look good, though! Real good.

 

[Equinox]

thanks, and yeah they are pimp, just ghetto wobbly, argh. And haha, I just took the axle covers off and got slightly more clearance, how many millimeters are we talking about machining here?

 

[mypfizzle]

i think u should come out to cali.. an ill bust out the dremmel and a 12 pack of corona and we will make it work -=)
good luck man.. make sure u post pics. -=)
John

 

[Natey]

You mean the dust covers on the rear? Kinda hard to get 'em off, huh?
I'm not really sure how much to take off. Either ARD_MP5, wheelguru or Greddy917 should be able to help you out.
Sorry for my ignorance. Post pics when they're mounted!

 

[Equinox]

You mean the dust covers on the rear? Kinda hard to get 'em off, huh?
I'm not really sure how much to take off. Either ARD_MP5, wheelguru or Greddy917 should be able to help you out.
Sorry for my ignorance. Post pics when they're mounted!

yeah I took off the dust covers on the rear axels, now I need to grind down a little lip that surrounds the axle, hmm, I have a rip off dremel, damn, I need a real one, or just an angle grinder, haha. Yeah I'll be sure to post pics.

 

[shaunmp5]

Equinox, I was doing a search on the Rotas the other day, and I believe Rischie warned you about this in November when you guys were having your little "debate" concerning ILP.

 

[spoolinmp3]

Yeah I you need to have the wheels bored out.....ask rishie he knows all about it. Equinox if you need centercaps I can hook you up for free. I still owe you stickers so I could send them out with them....lemme know

 

[GReddy917]

Equinox, I was doing a search on the Rotas the other day, and I believe Rischie warned you about this in November when you guys were having your little "debate" concerning ILP.

Somone has made quite the Jackass out of themselves....

http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8716&highlight=Ilp+performance

When I pm'ed you I was taking pity...

Now that I remember what you said...all I have to say is suck it up you ignorant piece of s***.

Thats what you get.


(upyours)

 

[ARD MP5]

Oh damn. Hey what can I say. Nobody believes me so there's not much I can do. Call Rota and talk to Kim or Cecil. If your vendor had indicated to Rota that these are for a protege they would have told them to purchase from us as we are a wholesaler.

Please believe me. I'm not here to monopolize the protege market. Just here to save you guys some costly mistakes. This is why Subzeros cost an additional $50-$60.00 from us. I don't even markup the machining costs.

The centerbore does not need to be larger in diameter, just deeper. WE've fit it even without the dustcaps and it still didn't work.

Please believe me gentlemen. I have your best interest at heart and I hate seeing people go thru the same s*** I had too.

Laters, Rishie

The Battles that are exclusive to us, available in a month, will not require the machining and therefore will cost less.

 

[ARD MP5]

probably because they can fit other than what people tell you. No offense but im my personal experience with Rishie he pulls a bunch of bulls*** until you agree to buy wheels from him - which end up having the same stats as the tires he tells you will rub. Just tellin what I know.

This is what disturbs me the most Mr. Nox. I would have thought people would have more respect for me and my efforts. The problem is that we carry products that are simply too expensive for the protege community. s*** if people wanted Volks, Advan, SSR, Kinesis, Fikse, I could definitely hook you up. Rota is around the corner and are good friends of mine. Therefore we carry the product line as they are lightweight. Plus I'm THE ONE WHO ASKED THEM TO PRODUCE +48 offsets in 5x114.3. Something which should have been proprietary to us, but I simply am not willing to drop 10g's into every wheel model considering protege guys are not high volume clients.

The number of calls I get asking for me to look into specs of wheels we don't carry only to know that I won't be able to sell them is simple undoable. hence, the posting of my proprietary "Fitment Recipe." I did this openly so you guys can make the calls and look for specs. Then call me and see if I can hook it up. If not, no harm done. I have a principles for our company and a certain style and function we go for. If for some reason it is something we do not advocate, I will gladly refer them to somewhere else. I only want the best product, people, and clients who have respect for our quality of consultation.

Be careful what you say and I would appreciate an apology now that Greddy reminded me of what you had said. I have no hard feelings and will gladly help you out with Autoexe and MB as you've asked. Just be careful who you try to slander. I'm only here to help y'all, time allowing.

All the good vendors here are getting busier, as they should be. That means they do their s*** right. Therefore don't have as much time to spend on these boards. This is why we've setup our reps to moderate and relay info to me in order for us to support the growing community.

Take care and I hope all works out.

We shaved it about 4mm deeper with a slight taper to hold the cap in place. You can place a small o ring around the cap to take up the additional mm's of room.

Your undisputed Protege wheel expert,

Rishie

 

[Equinox]

wow you guys are a bunch of haters, and Greddy try not to take things personal when it's just a friendly convo, that other thread was just personal experience, so I don't see how I did anything wrong.

As for the rotas, oh well I've never run into anythign about the centerbores, but it doesn't matter anymore I ended up just angle grinding down the lip around the dust boot on the car itself, and not the rims, and made sure not to get any dust on the bearings, so it's all good, fits just fine now. No rubbing with the spool springs, thanks spoolin, and no need for the centercaps, sudydude.com is hooking me up.

I'll have pics soon, when I get new batteries for my damn digi cam that sucks em up like crazy

 

[Natey]

Ladies and Gentlemen,....after a half hour of reading, and 12 rounds of sparring, Rishie retains his Title as Undisputed Protege Wheel Expert.

Thanks, Rishie/ARD guys, for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us. I for one apprieciate the free advice. I'm sure the majority of people on the forum also does.

Oh yeah...killer shop, too. I was like the proverbial kid in a candy store. When I've got the dough-ray-me for a drop, I'll be over there in a flash!

--eggynatey(...another satisfied customer)

Eqinox, I'm glad it worked out. You just gots ta love them sub-zeros!(bling)

 

[Equinox]

yeah, they some pimp rims. and Yeah, Rishie is the undisputed whatchamacallit.... I coudl be better if I owned a rim shop... well maybe not I'm lazy. Oh well.

 

[Equinox]

pics here:
http://www.protege5.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=15539

 

[ozz]

i didn't have time to read through all the post so don't tell if the question has been answered but is it just the sub zeros that need to be machines because i just ordered a set of slipstreams and was just woundering if so no big deal