P5 60K checkup questions

[MFer]

I know that this isn't a very exciting thread, but I'm hoping you guys could help. I have done some cosmetic modes and stereo enhancements to my 2002.5 P5, but I'm not an engine guy. My car is just supposed to look good and get me to and from work. My question is:

What should be done at 60,000 miles?

I called my Mazda dealer (which I do all my work at and I bought my car at new) and asked. They said $560 for the basic and $370 extra if I want the timing belt replaced.

Here is what the $560 includes
oil change
tire rotation
cabin air filter
engine air filter
clean and adj brakes
spark plugs
clutch cleaned and flushed

So, does this seem expensive to anyone else?
Also, does 60K miles warrant a new timing belt? Has anyone been having any failures near this range?

Thanks,

mfer

 

[arcane73]

hmm
my dealer charges $400 for a 60k and $600 if the belt is replaced

most autos suggest a 60k timing belt replacement...on a mazda, the belt breaking will not cause internal damage (not %100 positive ours are non-interference motors) but still sucks for it to let go and leave you stranded.

 

[mhrebin]

i had my 60k service done at a mazda dealership and after i realized i had just wasted 489 dollars. just look up what gets done at a 60k service and it can be done by yourself. the cabin filter might be a pain but ive never worried about it.

the other stuff is just general maintenance and checking over joints, bushings and changing fuilds/oils. i was under the assumption the timing belt change included, but it didnt and i was pissed. so way was i shelling out close to 800-900 bucks for everything. the timing belt is recommended that it be changed at 60, just to be safe. but the mazda guys told me that most people dont and they do it a little later down the road.

 

[JoshP5]

Seems high. You could do the oil change, plugs, air filter, and tire rotation yourself for like $50. If your clutch/brakes seem fine I'd say don't worry about them.

Our engines are non-interference so if you break the timing belt no damage will occur--you'll just be stranded. But according to the manual if you're not in harsh conditions it should go 105K miles.

Our cars don't have a cabin air filter.

 

[njaremka]

check your owners manual for waht is recommended. the dealer is going to tell you whatever they can to make money.

 

[mhrebin]

exactly. stealerships ftl.

 

[5PADZAM]

Seems high. You could do the oil change, plugs, air filter, and tire rotation yourself for like $50. If your clutch/brakes seem fine I'd say don't worry about them.

Our engines are non-interference so if you break the timing belt no damage will occur--you'll just be stranded. But according to the manual if you're not in harsh conditions it should go 105K miles.

Our cars don't have a cabin air filter.

I agree with everything you say, except the part about the brakes and clutch. It is a good idea to flush out your brake and clutch system because the fluid used in these systems attracts moisture out of the air. Over time, the moisture build-up will cause rust to start forming. Flushing will remove this moisture and keep rust away. You can do this yourself, with the help of a friend to pump the pedals.

 

[JoshP5]

Fair enough.

 

[MFer]

I'm now getting a quote from a local garage that does a lot of work on toyota's and volvos. They seem on the up and up.

First comment they had was, "I don't think you need to replace your timing belt, but we will check for potential wear problems."

Next, the clutch flush, oil change and rotation is $120. They have to look at the brakes to see if anything is needed, but they said adjustments are pretty cheap (new brakes obviously more). The spark plugs are also modest. They said they would look at the cables prior to any quote. I'm probable looking at <$300 with them...

 

[5PADZAM]

I'm now getting a quote from a local garage that does a lot of work on toyota's and volvos. They seem on the up and up.

First comment they had was, "I don't think you need to replace your timing belt, but we will check for potential wear problems."

Next, the clutch flush, oil change and rotation is $120. They have to look at the brakes to see if anything is needed, but they said adjustments are pretty cheap (new brakes obviously more). The spark plugs are also modest. They said they would look at the cables prior to any quote. I'm probable looking at <$300 with them...

$120 sounds steep for oil change, rotation, and clutch fluid flush. Should be more like $70 - $80. But <$300 sounds much better than the dealer quote.

 

[MFer]

I was talking to the mechanic at this shop and he had a detailed book on service for cars. It was only up to 2001 and he said that the engine was an interference engine.

arcane73 and JoshP5, how sure are you that my 2002 is non-interference????????

Thanks!

 

[arcane73]

arcane73 and JoshP5, how sure are you that my 2002 is non-interference????????
Thanks!

my post says "not 100% positive"
the best bet is to contact Mazda directly or ask your local Mazda dealer

 

[JoshP5]

This has been discussed many times. FS-DE engines are non-interference.