Ok, what about a boost gauge, cold air intake,,,,

[AGR]

etc,,,,Oh; and the possible release of a 'chip' for our MAZDASPEEDS?!

Any ideas, anyone?

I don't want to really go crazy, but I would like some nice mods that won't require constant tweaking.

 

[70]

You can put in a boost gauge, a cold air intake is possible, but it'll probably still have to run through the stock intake box.

And a chip, not possible because the ECU is a sealed unit. You have to hack the wiring to get any kind of thing in there to mod the system, such as an S-AFC.

But that won't work anyway and the stock ECU in the MSP is set up to handle boost quite nicely as is.

 

[AGR]

You can put in a boost gauge, a cold air intake is possible, but it'll probably still have to run through the stock intake box.

And a chip, not possible because the ECU is a sealed unit. You have to hack the wiring to get any kind of thing in there to mod the system, such as an S-AFC.

But that won't work anyway and the stock ECU in the MSP is set up to handle boost quite nicely as is.

Ok, thanks!
What boost gauge is recommended, and how much do they cost generally? Also; how much boost is the MSP set for? And; how do we adjust it - safely? I sure as hell don't want to cause problems with my MSP, but more power in the future might be nice. This is my first Turbo, so I do claim some ignorance.

 

[70]

Ok, thanks!
What boost gauge is recommended, and how much do they cost generally? Also; how much boost is the MSP set for? And; how do we adjust it - safely? I sure as hell don't want to cause problems with my MSP, but more power in the future might be nice. This is my first Turbo, so I do claim some ignorance.

Um, most boost gauges are pretty decent, FM Protege has them, Spool has them, most gauge companies have them. Running the tube for the boost gauge is going to be the difficult part.

How much does the MSP run, boost wise? That is an issue in contention presently. I have heard numbers ranging anywhere from 5.9 to 9 psi. That is why we want someone to put a damn gauge on and see.

Turning up the boost is not going to happen. You will have to replace parts on the turbo to adjust boost, which will be seen on your first service and possibly void your warranty.

The MSP will not run more than 10 psi, the ECU will shut off fuel at that point.

Best way to get power safely for now is putting on a bigger diameter exhaust and waiting to see what else happens.

 

[AGR]

A few guys at work are saying (for starters) to go with a K&N FIPK filter (even a replacement element), so I might check to see if one is available for our cars. I already thought that might be some improvement. I'm in no hurry, but curious to see what 'upgrades' are out there.

 

[70]

K&N has a drop in filter element that will fit just fine in the stock air box. There is no FIPK filter system available for the MSP. I don't even think they have one yet for the regular Protege for that matter.

 

[AGR]

K&N has a drop in filter element that will fit just fine in the stock air box. There is no FIPK filter system available for the MSP. I don't even think they have one yet for the regular Protege for that matter.

What do you think about the drop in K&N element? Any noticeable improvement?

 

[70]

I don't know, I've never used one. Supposedly you'll see a small gain...

 

[Dexter]

someone please please put a frickin boost gauge in!

i would...when i get mine next week, but i wont have any extra money...maybe 100 bux....so i gotta save up

 

[MSP Pro]

Best first mods are to help the engine breathe better: open up the intake and the exhaust.

You must keep the mass air flow sensor, which is just after the stock intake box, so a K&N drop in into the stock box will help some, but an open round filter replacing the stock air filter box will help much more (and probably void your warranty). This still works with the stock computer because all the air is still going through the stock air flow sensor.

The exhaust is usually done from the last cat back to keep the emissions police happy. Is the muffler a straight through? If not, plan on replacing it with a straight through type: I like Borla myself. All stainless, quiet, and almost no back pressure. Plus a very good warranty. Also, check the size of the exhaust pipe from the last cat to the muffler. If it's only 2 inch, you might want to bump it up to 2.25 inch or even 2.5 inch. Don't go too big or the velocity of the exhaust gases slows down too much and you lose any extraction effect you might have had.

Anyway, those are my plans for getting the car up to autox stock rules limits.

 

[chdesign]

The stock MSP runs 5.2psi of boost my suggestion for more power.....A get a boost gauge B. a good intake c. a good exhaust....D. a bigger downpipe E. a turbo upgrade F which should be B is get a boost controller and turn up the boost.....can't too much though the T25 is not very effiecient its a really freakin small turbo......i'm sure corksport or someone will come out wiht a T28 upgrade soon or say the hell with it build an adapter plate and slap a super 60 T3 on there and see some real HP gains.

 

[70]

The stock MSP runs 5.2psi of boost my suggestion for more power.....(snip)...

Where did you hear this one??

 

[slug420]

when you put a bigger IC, CAI, bigger donwpipe, bigger exhaust on the car, doesnt that all lower the boost? say from 6.9 stock (hypothetically) to 5 or something? and the msp can safely run 10.

colin said a while ago, although he never backed it up that mazdaspeed was coming out with a boost controller and he had seen it on a wall of mazdaspeed performance upgrades at his moms place of employment (Mazda NA in irvine). Is it not reasonable to think that mazdaspeed releases a bigger IC, CAI, downpipe, exhaust for this car? and would it not be reasonable then to release a boost controller that maybe techs can only put on cars with all the aforementioned mods, and then boost to 9 psi from the 5 psi it is running with all the other mods?

that sounds like it could show some powa

 

[slug420]

im probably just putting way too much confidence in mazda's "commitment" to mazdaspeed performance parts....dont mind me...

 

[122 Vega]

The general manager where I bought my MSP showed me that they did not in fact use any "special" hose clamps for the turbo assembly. The Mazdaspeed mechanic had just come back from California where they had been told that Mazda had changed that plan, but to avoid warrantying anything associated with "gross" modifications. He also said that it was at 5.2 psi, as low as it can go.

Britt

First Orange Mazdaspeed in Oregon!

 

[Inimical_01ES]

......i'm sure corksport or someone will come out wiht a T28 upgrade soon or say the hell with it build an adapter plate and slap a super 60 T3 on there and see some real HP gains.

Oh come on, be a man... just go with the T78!

 

[igdrasil]

Why dont you guys talk to spoolinmp3...I think hes working on a Standalone unit for the mp3...he then can do the tune for the MSP or you guys.