new cobalt ss , ms3's killer ???

[Focused]

Damn some of y'all are straight ig'nant!!! Or perhaps just slow? OR just haters? haha

The Cobalt SS/SC is being dropped, and the Cobalt SS/TC, as in TurboCharger, is being introduced.

BTW, the record that it reportedly beat was the FWD sport compact class 'Ring record, which was held by a hot hatch Opel (I forget the name).

 

[Sacrilicious]

errr...just so you guys know, that cancellation was meant for the supercharged version of the cobalt SS. this one we're discussing here is the turbocharged version. the supercharged version was canned in june 2007, but the turbocharged SS here is very much alive.

http://www.caranddriver.com/carnews/14288/2008-chevrolet-cobalt-ss.html?al=104

 

[Sacrilicious]

haha...it's as Focused said...;o

 

[BlackCherry06]

They can put as much lipstick as they want on that pig, but it will never be a better overall package. Faster? Maybe, but so what. The interior is too low-rent and the exterior fit-and-finish still (after all this time) isn't up to Japanese standards. I rather have a good overall car than a Radio Flyer wagon with a hot engine.

 

[Tigs]

Damn some of y'all are straight ig'nant!!! Or perhaps just slow? OR just haters? haha

The Cobalt SS/SC is being dropped, and the Cobalt SS/TC, as in TurboCharger, is being introduced.

BTW, the record that it reportedly beat was the FWD sport compact class 'Ring record, which was held by a hot hatch Opel (I forget the name).

Anyone ever find out if that was a production configuration in which they beat the old ring record for that class? Meaning, production tires, weight and engine settings etc? A ring record without knowing if the car was/is at full production equivalents means very little.

Also worth of note, is the fact that the cobalt isn't governed from factory (at this point) and thus tops out at something like 169 mph..which at the ring would surely add up.

 

[protegeV]

I doubt that thing could ever get up to 169 even on the straights its not that aerodynamic.

 

[Tigs]

That's it's listed top speed. Whether or not it got up to that speed at the ring is another story.

 

[Sacrilicious]

quite honestly, it looks at least as aerodynamic as our ms3.

 

[boostdog]

i think you guys are underestimating this car..it pulled a very nice skid pad #. i think it will be just as potent as the old srt /ms3/wrx ( and hopefully the caliber srt4).. i think chvey learned there lesson...if they price this thing below 20K i gaurantee alot of people will buy it.

 

[CHICO2003]

I'm not sure anyone is underestimating it. We all know it'll be fast and will probably handle well. That's not the issue. In the end, you've got a blandly styled, cheaply made car. While there are a # of things that can address the styling issue (I've seen some pretty sick Cobalts w/body kits and what not) there's not much that can address the shoddy build quality. For some, that's not a concern. Think about the target market for this thing... rattling dashboard? just crank up the bass more. car s**** the bed after 50k miles? It'll probably be wrapped around a telephone pole at about 30. For those of us who want a fast car with plenty of style... above avg build quality and outstanding reliability, well...

 

[Sacrilicious]

quite honestly, this will be what the srt4 COULD have been. too bad for dodge...oO;

 

[protegeV]

we know what it could have been...actually what any caliber COULD have been...a car...not a mini-suv like it is

 

[redspeed]

I seen some lowered cobalts, with window tint and some better looking headlights, you know keep it simple, and they look pretty cool. The interior doesn't look too bad and it's waaayyy better looking than the caliber's interior.

I really dislike any domestic cars, to the point of never owned one in 14 years that I been driving. But I really think that chevy is going in the right direction with this new cobalt. I still think the ms3 is better looking and all, and if was going to buy a new car after this new cobalt hit the dealer, I would still buy the ms3 hands down. It would be really cool if Ford brings the focus RS to the states, just for competition's sakes. Imagine the magazine comparisons.

 

[blaggah]

I dunno, I kinda like it. I wouldn't trade my MS3 for it though.

 

[///M Compact]

The way I see it, the more factory sport compacts the better. Competition improves the breed. Maybe the new kids on the block will encourage Mazdaspeed to offer more performance upgrades- such as the ecu calibration from the Extreme MPS...

 

[elderlycoffee]

Killer? I think not.
It may be a better competitor than the SRT4 but it's not even on the same level as a mazda 3.
You never feel like you have a cheap car no matter what model 3 you have.
A cobalt is a piece of s*** compared to any mazda.

 

[Hikaru9]

what does it have 260hp? I'm guessing they both weigh about the same so their #s will be similar.

On the track I think the cars will be on par perhaps with the cobalt have a slight advantage in the form of less weight (about 200 lbs) and a lower center of gravity.

Cobalt: 2681 lb for the coupe

MS3: 3180 lb

Granted it will probably be heavier than 2681lb due to the performance enhancing bits, but I think it will still weigh substantially less than the MS3. I have not driven the Cobalt SS; nevertheless, I recall the auto press giving it good ratings for its balance and handling. In C&D's lightning lap, it even posted quicker times than the Mustang GT (although that's not saying much).

Only time will tell, but I think it will be a good contender performance-wise. Having said that, I will never buy one because I do not find its styling attractive. *^_^*

 

[Donas64]

that link sucks.

anyway, no way in hell it'll edge it out. what does it have 260hp? I'm guessing they both weigh about the same so their #s will be similar.

Personally, I've never cared for the cobalt's styling. I know they're trying to go for a 'corvette jr' thing with the taillights but... they just don't work. the rest of the car is so freakin blah it's not even funny. the design of the last gen cavalier, imo, was better. as far as the interior goes... craplastic abounds everywhere. in the end... formidable from a bang for the buck standpoint but... that's about it.

Thats the funniest thing I've read in a long time. The Cobalt SS looks leagues better than that old monstrosity.

 

[Donas64]

If I was single and wasn't looking to start a family in the next 2 years or so, I'd definatly consider a Cobalt SS/TC. As an overall package the MS3 is the superior car based on just fit and finish and utility alone. But face it, a lot of people still hate hatches and a lot of people still think the MS3 is fast, well built, full of utility, but ugly. A lot of folks will be drawn to a handsome looking coupe especially one thats ditched its LOOK AT ME wing and has an interior thats not a total disaster ala Caliber SRT-4.

If chevy doesn't screw this up somehow, they are gunna move a lot of units.

 

[CHICO2003]

Thats the funniest thing I've read in a long time. The Cobalt SS looks leagues better than that old monstrosity.

While I recounted my statement, I completely disagree with you on this. The Cobalt has a slight edge... but it's not nearly the improvement that one would expect or hope for. Look at the 2 side by side.... the similarties are astounding. Basically the same boring design. The only thing even slightly interesting about the Cobalt are the tail lights... but those are a love it/hate it type of thing and I personally hate em. The door handles give it a shred of style but that's about it. Everything else is about as ho-hum as can be.

While some cars are able to pull that type of subtley off... I'm not convinced this one does. Compare it to The new Eclipse... or even old eclipse. Or hell... even the freakin Tiburon! At least those cars have some personality.

Granted... this car, unlike those mentioned above, seems to at least have the performance part right and that's obviously most important. But come on Chevy! Would it have killed you to add a little style? Even the Ion Red Line looks better.