My nuts are really tight...

Don't use a torque wrench! They are calibrated and meant only to apply final torque on a fastener.

As said above, get some PB Blaster and a proper socket, nice long handle and crack that s*** loose. Also, apply smooth pressure, don't "bounce" on it.
 
BradC said:
Don't use a torque wrench! They are calibrated and meant only to apply final torque on a fastener.

As said above, get some PB Blaster and a proper socket, nice long handle and crack that s*** loose. Also, apply smooth pressure, don't "bounce" on it.
Amen! Torque wrenches are NOT a tool to remove bolts.

I would recommend the following for breaking bolts loose:

- Soak with PB Blaster. Cost: $4.
- Buy a 3/4" and 1/2" breaker bar from Sears (Craftsman). This is nothing more than a long handled bar with a pivoting (non-wratcheting) drive head. Cost: $10 - $15 each.
- From your local home center, buy a 5' section of black, steel pipe. Take your new Craftsman breaker bars with you and buy the smallest pipe diameter that will fit over the end of the handle. Have the home center cut 1/3 of the pipe off. They should cut it for free, but don't pay to rethread the ends. You now have two massively strong breaker bars. A shorter one for tight spaces, and a long one for open spaces. These slide over the handle of your Craftsman breaker bars for massive leverage. Cost: $10
- Invest in a set of impact sockets (1/2" drive). Use your new setup on a regular socket, and you will shatter the socket. You need the strength of the impact sockets to go at really stuck bolts. Cost: $50 - $60.
- An Air Impact Wrench is really ncie, but your new breaker bar/pipe combo can throw WAY more torque at the bolt. If you are going to invest in air tools, get ready to spend at least $300 for a decent compressor/tool set. Additionally, you'll need 1/2" drive impact sockets at $50 - $60.

Tip: If you are up against a massively stuck bolt and you snap the head of the bolt off, go straight to drilling the bolt out. Trust me, you'll save yourself a TON of headache and time. Start with a small bit and work your way up. Spray WD-40 liberally while drilling.
 
There is actually a tool for drilling out bolts, it might be just a different bit I was gunna look into it but it seems like a good thing to have. You drill in and when you drill out it pulls the bolt out so ive heard
 
Okay, took my nuts to a shop and they loosened them for me.

Seems they were really stuck on there because I had put PB blaster on them, and at the shop they still had to use a long breaker bar with a 2ft piece of pipe and push it while bracing against a wall. Hopefully a new nut/washer and it won't get stuck so bad next time.
 
A torque/breaker bar and some PB blast is the answer to all your stubborn nut problems.

I've got air tools, and even I turn to the breaker bar when a nut refuses to budge.
 
Im sure your socket has a small crack if it's rounding your nuts. Try another socket and it should work. Removing bolts with the impact wrench makes life so much easier.
 
gone_fishin said:
A torque/breaker bar and some PB blast is the answer to all your stubborn nut problems.

I've got air tools, and even I turn to the breaker bar when a nut refuses to budge.


Breaker bar with an extention and a 5 foot hollow pipe always works lol.
 
clicknext said:
Okay, took my nuts to a shop and they loosened them for me.

Seems they were really stuck on there because I had put PB blaster on them, and at the shop they still had to use a long breaker bar with a 2ft piece of pipe and push it while bracing against a wall. Hopefully a new nut/washer and it won't get stuck so bad next time.

nice.

I bought a 1/2" drive 24-inch (2 foot) breaker bar at a swap meet for $10. it's awesome. and of course, if i want even more leverage, i can slip over another pipe on the end. but i haven't had to do that yet. PB blaster works wonders too.
 
Breaker bar from Harbor freight: Like $10
Impact socket set from Northern Tool: $15
Pipe: $75 from harbor freight (because you get a free aluminum race jack when you buy the $75 breaker bar extension...........)
 
aMaff said:
Breaker bar from Harbor freight: Like $10
Impact socket set from Northern Tool: $15
Pipe: $75 from harbor freight (because you get a free aluminum race jack when you buy the $75 breaker bar extension...........)

Getting your tight nuts off...Priceless:)
 
jeg0024 said:
Getting your tight nuts off...Priceless:)
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Good catch (thumb)
 
aMaff said:
Breaker bar from Harbor freight: Like $10
Impact socket set from Northern Tool: $15
Pipe: $75 from harbor freight (because you get a free aluminum race jack when you buy the $75 breaker bar extension...........)

Checking the HF dumpster after hours... :
free breaker bar, socket set, racing jack bar.
 
I replaced filled my mount with epoxy. That was a mistake. I thought having the rubber/epoxy combination would make for minimum vibrations but it feels like a massage chair at idle. Any higher rpm and you don't feel a thing. There must be a resonant frequency somewhere near 750rpm or something.

I've just put an order in for an SLS mount, hopefully that doesn't vibrate too much more than stock. I really like the throttle response I'm getting now but if I had to choose between the good throttle response or no vibrations, I'd choose no vibrations and go with the stock mount.
 
Motor mounts are designed to resist low frequencies like engine movement but yield to high frequencies like engine vibration. Hence they don't do as well at idle as they do at higher rpm. It's not a resonance condition.

3M urethane windshield adhesive would have worked better. It cures to 50-55 durometer and works well for filling stock mounts. I used it to fill my front mount and am still happy with the results 3K miles later.
 
JoshP5 said:
Motor mounts are designed to resist low frequencies like engine movement but yield to high frequencies like engine vibration. Hence they don't do as well at idle as they do at higher rpm. It's not a resonance condition.

3M urethane windshield adhesive would have worked better. It cures to 50-55 durometer and works well for filling stock mounts. I used it to fill my front mount and am still happy with the results 3K miles later.
That logic works, but if you think about it, a stiff mount resists low frequencies better (less swinging back and forth) than a soft mount, so if I got a stiffer mount, shouldn't it only resonate at high frequencies?
 
aMaff said:
Breaker bar from Harbor freight: Like $10
Impact socket set from Northern Tool: $15
Pipe: $75 from harbor freight (because you get a free aluminum race jack when you buy the $75 breaker bar extension...........)

i found a harbor freight near my house, i'll go check it out. their online deals look pretty good. i hope their instore stuff is just as good. thanks!
 
clicknext said:
That logic works, but if you think about it, a stiff mount resists low frequencies better (less swinging back and forth) than a soft mount, so if I got a stiffer mount, shouldn't it only resonate at high frequencies?
You raise an interesting point. It seems like resonance is playing a role in the system. Because of inertia, the vibration amplitude at high frequencies is small. So whatever mounts you use the vibration diminishes as revs climb. However, the amplitude become larger as the revs drop because you're getting closer to the motor's resonance frequency (which is determined by the stiffness of the motor mounts). Stiffer mounts raise the resonance frequency. So the engine vibrations at idle are closer to the resonance frequency with aftermarket mounts than they are with softer mounts, hence the larger amplitude vibrations.

I think that expains it.
 
I have no idea what you said, but it sounds good!


(jk, makes sense, but I'm not sure how accurate it is ;))
 
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