my MSP's a JEEP in snow!

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THIS IS A GREAT SNOW CAR!!!

Driving home tonight in the Blizzard of 2003 (New Jersey's idea of a "blizzard", anyway...) 4-6" of medium-to-heavy snow already down, some untracked "virgin" snow, some ice, some slush... this thing is darn near unstoppable! LSD works great, stops on hills were no problem, directional stability on turns very predictable (but too much throttle means nasty understeer - very predictable and expected in a front-wheel-drive car, but more pronounced with the LSD). ABS seems tuned just right, doesn't step in too quickly or too aggressively, ju-ust right. Exactly what I was looking for and expecting in the MSP, and darned near perfect for a FWD car.

Summary:

The Good: LSD, good trac-ac-action, stable, well-tuned ABS, not as low a ground clearance as you'd think (this is a good thing)

The Bad: The clunk is really noticable when all the rest of the road noise goes away, stiff suspension is a little uncomfy on rough roads or over ice ruts, LSD-style turns mean a different "style" than non-LSD cars (I like this and prefer it, having had a Quaife-equipped GTI for 5 years... others should get used to it).

Oh - if you haven't guessed, my stock 040s are packed away in the garage, I'm on 205/55/16 Semperit Sport Grip (dedicated snow tires) on P5 wheels... and this allowed me to OWN a poorly driven Hummer H2 on the uphill near the house... I can imagine the look on the soccer mom's face as this little black car flat drove away from her...

DO NOT DRIVE YOUR MSP IN SNOW ON THE RE040's!

Now... they're saying 10"-20", 50MPH winds tomorrow... now THAT's snow! Time to break out the Fischers...
 
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i have always said my car is like a snowmobile in the snow.. Snow tires rule in snow.. go figure....

This year i have the LSD and i lowered it, i wont be taking it out in this storm.. but im anxious to see how she does.. I had my mp3 in vermont with 6" of snow, and it was fine, even climbing steep hills.
 
haha

im drivin an IMPALA rental in the snow!!

hooray for that

fi34otui3jogni

i bought a 99 impreza 2.5rs coupe for the winter, and it got sideswiped by some senior citizen who decided while driving the opposite direction, he wanted to drive in my lane of traffic.

terrible...F

so I have a banged up suby i cant drive, a msp with 18s, and this chevrolet boat
 
doublebase said:
I won't let her out of the garge she looks to ugly with those 15inch black steel things on.

i hear ya.. i refuse to put mine on.. they are still in the attic.. the mp3 will stay in the garage untill i put them on, maybe this weekend.

Ill just pimp the 4x4 sonoma for now :D
 
I don't know if my diff is screwd up or something else is wrong but I have never had a car that sucked SOOOOOOO bad in the snow. I was stopped facing downhill and it would spin the tires even with just barley enough throttle to keep it from stalling. I guess its time for some snow tires - I hate this bad NJ weather.
 
uh, if u read the post, he says hes on snow tires! yeah, the stock tires ARE NOT RATED FOR SNOW, repeat, ARE NOT RATED FOR SNOW!!! i myself have parked the MSP and am riding around in a 1990 4Runner...go 4x4!

PS...

i live in old bridge, are you the "other" spicy around? ive seen one on route 9 and he goes up to I287 like i do, just wondering who it might be...
 
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AllJuicedUp said:
I don't know if my diff is screwd up or something else is wrong but I have never had a car that sucked SOOOOOOO bad in the snow. I was stopped facing downhill and it would spin the tires even with just barley enough throttle to keep it from stalling. I guess its time for some snow tires - I hate this bad NJ weather.

uh yeah, welcome to driving through snow with the stock tires.
 
I put my car right on my front lawn.. and that's where it's staying until the snow melts.
 
Well, I almost smaked a frikin hydrant and phone pole today. I am REALLY considering getting a frikin WRX now.
 
The tires made ALL the difference - had the same experience with the 16V techtonics motored Quaife GTI... on RE71's (does THAT date me. or what?) it was an uncontrollable hockey puck. On snows, I drive RINGS around SUV's. That's how the MSP feels - this is one fine snow car - on snow tires. It's one fine looking garage ornament on the OE tires. The only difference? between $400 and $700 invested in snows. Sounds like a lot, but it's less than your deductible, and WILL save you. Do it!
 
I had to drive home in this s*** tonight and all I have to say is that this car is damn good except for the tires. I will look for different rims to put on it in the near future because if this car had better tires it would be 100% better.
 
Nah, Ive decided, its a WRX Wagon for me. The MSP was fun, and I could dump gobs of money into it to make it funner, but a WRX Wagon will be the most practical for me, and fun in one. :D
 
The MSP with a good set of snows will run circles around a WRX in snow with its stock tires, even with its AWD.

Its like night and day. Real snow tires really work!
 
omg, im about to s*** my pants. every thread i look into there is a post from a new new england member


woot!
 

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