My Christmas Gift in Action

EvilMSP

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2003 Black Mica MazdaSpeed
Well my dad got me a GTech Pro for christmas and I absolutely love this thing. It's fun to be in the passenger seat and watch this thing as you scoot around town. Also it is SO great to get driving feedback instantly after you do a run. So far I've only done 0-60 tests cause I dont need anything other than that on the street. Just getting down my timing and skills before I think of going farther with testing but I am really pleased with how the car is doing so far.

Currently is Cali it is cold and raining so traction is a PAIN right now. But I managed to get a 6.5 sec 0-60 with only a 2.6s 60 foot time. As I remember the good people get like 2.1-2.2ish 60 ft times. I cant wait to see how fast this thing is when I finally get some traction. Also I happily pulled 1.01 g's while getting on the freeway on a slightly banked onramp without doing anything crazy, sheesh it was fun. .99 g's would have been fine but there is something about 1+ that just sounds cool. I can't wait to try it out in the dry weather but I am just so exstatic that I had to post. Such a good tool for the money :)
 
they are more accurate than people give them credit for. however I dont think the HP figures they can give are all that accurate. but the accelerometers they use are quite accurate
 
EvilMSP said:
Well my dad got me a GTech Pro for christmas and I absolutely love this thing. It's fun to be in the passenger seat and watch this thing as you scoot around town. Also it is SO great to get driving feedback instantly after you do a run. So far I've only done 0-60 tests cause I dont need anything other than that on the street. Just getting down my timing and skills before I think of going farther with testing but I am really pleased with how the car is doing so far.

Currently is Cali it is cold and raining so traction is a PAIN right now. But I managed to get a 6.5 sec 0-60 with only a 2.6s 60 foot time. As I remember the good people get like 2.1-2.2ish 60 ft times. I cant wait to see how fast this thing is when I finally get some traction. Also I happily pulled 1.01 g's while getting on the freeway on a slightly banked onramp without doing anything crazy, sheesh it was fun. .99 g's would have been fine but there is something about 1+ that just sounds cool. I can't wait to try it out in the dry weather but I am just so exstatic that I had to post. Such a good tool for the money :)

(gtfo). There is no way your msp pulled over 1g. In all the testing on the msp the best it ever did on the 200ft lateral skidpad without sliding out was right around .90g's. I have an EVO VIII and a MSP and the EVO with some coilovers, chassis braces and front and rear sway bars pulls right around or just over 1g. Stock evos don't even pull 1g they pull like .95 to .97g's. So I am gonna have to call bull s*** on that one, you might want to take that thing and get it fixed cause for sure the g's are not working.
 
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you can peek well over 1g

that is the difference between instantaneous g's and continuous g's (which is what magazines and dealers, etc. rate cars by)

I've also been well over 1g instantaneous, but I do have coilovers well tuned
 
You can get over 1g easy in short spurts. Probably well over under certain conditions. Lateral acceleration on a skidpad (what magazines measure) is much different than everyday driving.
 
the MR holds at .94 and the stock EVO holds .89 according to Road and Track and Car and Driver, so I don't know where you pulled .97 for a stock EVO from......with tuned coilovers I could see .97 but not stock.
 
Tommy1005 said:
the MR holds at .94 and the stock EVO holds .89 according to Road and Track and Car and Driver, so I don't know where you pulled .97 for a stock EVO from......with tuned coilovers I could see .97 but not stock.

hey what you talking about...the EVO is the best car in the world, it can do anything.
 
Tommy1005 said:
the MR holds at .94 and the stock EVO holds .89 according to Road and Track and Car and Driver, so I don't know where you pulled .97 for a stock EVO from......with tuned coilovers I could see .97 but not stock.

You should really learn to provide proof before you go saying s***. The mr and the VIII are exactly the same except for the acd and all of them pull the same on a 200ft lateral skidpad. As for the numbers from car and driver they also do not actually drive the cars they estimate all the numbers, you would know that if you actuallly took the time to read a little. That's why it says "c/d estimated performance: ......... After all car and driver says the stock evo viii runs a 5.4 to 60 and a standing quarter of 14.2 and if you've ever been to the track most stock evo's run to 60 in under 5 seconds and make it througn the 1320' in around 13.5 and some even quicker. Road and track also does the same thing. I pulled all my statistics from a place, Sport Compact Car, that actually goes out and tests the car and are not bias to domestics. Here is a link that shows .95g's on the skid pad and other the stock performance statistics on a 2003 evo VIII and another link that shows the performance stats of the mazdaspeed. I have read other magazines that have the evo pulling .97g's on the skidpad in stock form. So I never said the evo was the best car in the world but I do know what I am talking about and I just don't believe that a msp pulled over 1g anywhere. If it can't do it on the skidpad it's not gonna do it on the street not even for a second. But by all means you can continue to live in your dream world where your msp is better than my evo. By the way I never said it was the best car in the world but take it from someone who owns both the MSP is definitely no EVO and never will be. It's great for what it is, a cheap car that handles nice. The evo on the other hand is what it is also, a detuned race car that competes with the worlds best sports cars when it is stock and beats them with a few thousand in mods. With the 13:1 steering rack that the evo has it is one of the best handling cars in the world and shows up on all the best of lists.
 
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I have had the gtech for a long time. If you have the exact weight of the car the hp numbers are insanely accurate (within 4hp). The quarter mile times I have never been too impressed with for me they have been around .2 off (actually done at the track).
 
LoL this thread is funny...

It's entirely possible he did pull over 1.0 lateral g's, even continuously. He wasn't on a skidpad (flat surface with a circle painted on it). He was on a BANKED on-ramp, which allowed him to drive faster than he would have been able to on a FLAT surface before skidding out - and thereby yielding greater lateral acceleration.

Now if he had claimed to have pulled over 1.0 continuously in a parking lot, I too would call BS. But he wasn't in a parking lot.

(burnout)(burnout)
 
The MR has Bilstein shocks, BBS wheels, 6 speed transmission, more horsepower and torque, etc, etc, but you're right.......the EVO and the MR are the same car except for the acd.......the acd is the only difference.......estimated or not, I don't believe that they can be exactly correct with one car and off by .05 g's on another, it just doesn't make sense. And as has been said before, g's on a skidpad are continuous, g's on the street are instantaneous, unless you are going in a circle......a car can pull more g's instantaneously than continously, it's pretty simple......if a car can hold better for a short period of time than for an extended period at a flat angle.......if you would read the original post, you will also see that this was done on a banked entrance ramp.......and as most of us know, you can pull more g's on a banked corner than a flat one.
 
and I know what the EVO is capable of, I was thinking of trading my car in on one, but it wasn't all that great when I test drove one, or when I borrowed a friend's at the autocross, I just wasn't that impressed with the car.....I ran 1/2 second faster around a 1:30 course in the EVO than I did in the MSP.......so instead of getting the EVO, I now can't decide what I want to get when I get rid of the MSP
 
Yes this thread was supposd to be a happy simple one but some people dont like to read the fine print and say stupid things. There is no way in hell the MSP can pull 1g on a skippad. Most of you people are posting skidpad numbers. I was not holding 1g in a 600 ft skippad lol. I was getting on the freeway on an onramp that is banked down and to the right. I was going faster and faster until for a split second it peaked at 1.01 g's. This is entirely possible and would be cake to repeat. Some of you are too "bs" happy and didnt even see wher I was driving. Only cars with TONS of modifications can actually hold something like 1g on a skidpad, sheesh....
 
Oh and if someone starts something like, then your GTech is still jacked up cause there is no way you can get a 6.5s 0-60 on it. Well my car is not stock so don't even start with that one :). The handling of the car is stock however. All I wanted was a nice little thread to share my happiness, oh well.

And strongbear it is interesting how you told someone to know their facts before they posted, cause you obviously dont. You jumped on the "g's are way to high bandwagon" before you even realized i was barreling down a sloped/banked onramp and obtained over 1g for a split second.

When setup correctly this is a great great tool. But you need to get a mini level and set it up perfectly for the best results. Maybe that is why your times were .2 off in the 1/4. just a thought.
 
EvilMSP said:
Oh and if someone starts something like, then your GTech is still jacked up cause there is no way you can get a 6.5s 0-60 on it. Well my car is not stock so don't even start with that one :). The handling of the car is stock however. All I wanted was a nice little thread to share my happiness, oh well.

And strongbear it is interesting how you told someone to know their facts before they posted, cause you obviously dont. You jumped on the "g's are way to high bandwagon" before you even realized i was barreling down a sloped/banked onramp and obtained over 1g for a split second.

When setup correctly this is a great great tool. But you need to get a mini level and set it up perfectly for the best results. Maybe that is why your times were .2 off in the 1/4. just a thought.

Sorry, but I have a hard time believing that on a wet road you pulled over a g in a msp with stock suspension. I believe that you would have been in the ditch. You kept going on about how wet the road was and you can't wait to try it when it's dry, but in the same breathe you are pulling a g. Sorry I'll butt out and leave you all to it.
 
Watch the flames guys....

BTW the MSP has no problem hitting > 1.0 INSTANTANEOUS G's without crapping out.

I've pulled > 1.1 instaneous G's on a dry road with my (stock suspension) MSP. A split second later though the rear end broke loose.

1.01 G's on a wet road is high, but not unobtainable....for INSTANTANEOUS (IE PEAK) numbers....
 
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