MSP vs SRT-4?

Dude -

Drive the cars, you will see the fit and finish differences. The SRT-4 is faster absolutely. STOCK the MSP is slower and handles better, thats fact.
 
RazorP5 said:
<img src="http://www.angelfire.com/extreme4/mp5/mspsuck.gif">

They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car you idiot.
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seatbackfurther said:
They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car *** ******. Take your *** *** ********** off your sig, it's making me ****. Get *** to do some ***-*** and *** that ******* *** off.

I edited as best as posible because I didn't want it being repeated, but this was really un-called for. Why do you feel the need to bash on people, he voiced his opinion on a car, so you voice yours on his significant other. In that case can I call your mother a ***** and you a father-less bastard? Just a thought?
 
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seatback, cool down a bit please.

seatbackfarther, your comments were way out of line. If you'd know Razor you'd know he uses that a lot, and he jokes around a lot.

FURTHER more, i dont want to hear anything like that again
 
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on the fo real tip..dont triffle with razor..artillery boys will track your ass down and call a fire mission...you gaffy bastard, he doesn't really hate the MSP..he is actually going to buy one..read a little deeper before you spout s*** like that..
 
I think that when it comes down to it, you would spend more money making an SRT-4 handle like an MSP then you would making an MSP hang with an SRT-4 in a straight line. That is until you start modding the SRT-4 too, but Im just trying to make the point that you will spend a sh*t ton of money modifying your suspension to get it to handle like an MSP, and you need to get colder plugs, exhaust, an MBC, and better fuel management to make an MSP run like an SRT-4. Just my .02:)
 
seatbackfurther said:
They suck? Why do you post in the section? You drive a stripped down version of the car you idiot.
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i second the motion you need to chill slick. that was really uncalled for. razor is a good guy.
 
He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.
 
are you an srt dude??
first off, the camber on the neon is ZERO. that'd be a good place to start.

an msp can hit 13s with race fuel and a few other minor mods.

not to mention the hiboost turbo kit i could get and have my STOCK mp3 run 260whp and 300lb torque on racing gas and a few other mods like hiboost did on his P5...

dude, whats your point? for all those perfectly straight roads out there :confused:
 
seatbackfurther said:
He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.
your missing the point.
your opinion is definatly allowed, but talking like that is childish and disheartening.
dont act like a fool like that and people might respect your opinion a little more
is it that hard for you to apoligize for the rude comments. or are you tooo much of a man to do so??
 
here... http://mazdamp3.com/vbb225/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27699


We went today to Dynamic Autosports in Irvine Ca. to do the dyno test at 14 PSI with the new bigger injectors.

The results are good. 259.6 WHP and 302.7 ft-lbs of Torque.

This was done at 14 psi with 100 octane 76 street legal fuel.

We had a fuel pressure gauge and it stayed at 50 lbs all the way to the redline. This means that the stock fuel pump will handle that much power.

I knew this engine would handle this much power with stock internals when it is well tuned.

After the dyno test we drove to Ramona, a small and nice town north of San Diego and we enjoyed the trip racing thru the canyons (at 14 psi) before we used all the high octane fuel.


now stop your childest cheap hits and find something else to do
 
seatbackfurther said:
He is stating an opinion as I am stating an opinion. He can track me down or I can give him my address and he can come on over.

You can call my parents anything you want. You haven't seen them or know them. I SEE the picture therefore I can state an opinion.

Ryno: You could spend way less on making the SRT tear up the the MSP in any situation. It's costs around 300 bucks to bring the car in the mid 13's with the Stage I. Now tell me how much you spend on the MSP to bring it in that range. There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times. It wouldn't cost too much to make it handle better.

Well For $40 buck's you can get the Joe P. MBC Boost Controller and up the Boost to run 10-12PSI and run anywhere from 14.3-14.6 in the 1/4mile."basically a Stock SRT-4 pulls a 14.1sec 1/4mile. Also all you gotta do to get in the SRT-4 territory or smoke a SRT-4 is add the Injen CAI, 2.5"Cat-back, DP, FPR kit and your right there with a SRT-4 or even better at (12-14PSI). Which supposely the SRT-4's stock boost is at like 14+PSi. 2.4 vs. 2.0Liter at same PSI, Sorry Bro i'm sure the MSP would smoke the SRT-4 in every category. BTW" I love the SRT-4 2, so no flaming huh(peep)
 
No i own a MSP. I haven't seen the numbers up here for any cars in the 12's or low 13's. I have seen 12's on the srt boards.

I guess you don't know the neons scca track record they certainly suck....

I visit every board to know what people are doing with cars. I just hear more s*** talking here than anyone else. People that bought an MSP that is somehow a corvette because they can beat any car they go up against. Then the others with the "but it can outhandle "insert car here". Every car has go it's perks and I'm not going to say this car or that car sucks. I don't think the MSP sucks, it's a good little car. I like the SRT as well. I also like the SPEC-V. My head isn't too far up my ass to realize that other cars with small amount of mods can do the same as another car. I can put 3000 in my engine and beat this car or that, just the same as someone else can put 3000 in handling to beat this car or that car at track. It's all the same...
 
seatbackfurther said:
There's an SRT here in SA thats running the Autox and he stays pretty close to the MSP times.

:D Stays pretty close. Kinda sounds like he didnt beat him(no)
 
This thread is boring, wheres smolten :D

seatbackfurther:
Yes Razor was joking around, he does that. Think logicly with me for a second here. How much can he really hate a car that is basicly his witha better suspension and a turbo. At its simpliest, its the same car. I was to late to see you first comment to him, and as I am his friend that is probably a good thing.

Now, wheres smolten
 
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Let me tell you something you little punk ass piece of s***. Judging by your ridiculous ******* screen name, i would be pretty good to assume you are some ******* retard punk ass kid that prolly drives a ******* piece of s*** with the seat halfway onto the back seat. You prolly cant get s*** for a woman because when you pimp your piece of s*** car with the "seatbackfurther" than the rest of your dumb ass friends, you prolly miss all the classy women and score with only the stupid ****** that find that s*** cool. When I voice my opinion on a car jokingly, and if you had more than 9 pathetic little posts mostly in this thread to my 1900, you would know how i joke around with that little picture i made. To personally insult the most important person in my life, is crossing the line...especially knowing you would never do something like that to my face without getting something re-arranging yours. but im not going to get into the physical side of this. the fact of the matter is, if you did a little research into my past posts, you would see that we could have been on the same side on the issues of MSPs. So ill tell you what, you take your lame little punk ass off our boards, where ADULTS not CHILDREN like yourself can post maturelly, and ill leave you alone. Otherwise every ******* post you make on this forum you will be flamed until your little s*** for brains intellect is laughed off this board. normally i wouldnt dog someones personallity or personal problems, but when you cross the line and talk about someones wife, you are asking for problems when you are talking to adults...when your little b**** ass grows up one day and quits picking up the trailer trash women with your "seatbackfurther" retarded attitude, you might understand that. as for never seeing or hearing from your parents - thats probably why you have some serious problems socializing with other people - you need some guidence in your life, and you need to watch whos toes youre stepping on.

PS - my wife isnt fat...as a matter of fact, many people on the boards have complimented her looks in many posts...here is a picture from the night i came home...myabe you just cant tell from the sig...but thats ok, because no ones opinion REALLY matters to me, just the fact that you are an asshole matters.
 

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